Kansas Crimson

Posted: **Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:25 pm**

Something to watch...

Posted: **Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:59 pm**

UnholyLivingDead wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:25 pm Something to watch...

Far from things settling down. The rumors that were swirling a few months ago involved USC and another PAC school needing to join the B1G for the B1G to be interested enough to add Kansas and another midwest.

I would guess that UCLA will have a battle with the regents, but I have no clue on that, but regardless, were these two schools to move, it would be a big development for all of B1G, PAC and Big 12.

Posted: **Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:19 pm**

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:59 pm
UnholyLivingDead wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:25 pm Something to watch...

Far from things settling down. The rumors that were swirling a few months ago involved USC and another PAC school needing to join the B1G for the B1G to be interested enough to add Kansas and another midwest.

I would guess that UCLA will have a battle with the regents, but I have no clue on that, but regardless, were these two schools to move, it would be a big development for all of B1G, PAC and Big 12.

No doubt there is a lot of movement left to go. Word is the B1G is about to get $1 billion for their next tv rights contact and this is USC and UCLA staking their claim to a piece of that pie. This is headed toward going from a Power 5 to a Power 2 with the B1G and the SEC. Then I would guess we'll start to see the breakaway from the NCAA.

Posted: **Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:19 pm**

There’s going to be 2 mega conferences. An SEC and a Big 10. And they’ll probably change names/break away from NCAA. Probably something like 36 teams in each.

Posted: **Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:22 pm**

So like the East and the West.
Or the AFC and the NFC.
Sweet.

Posted: **Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:25 pm**

might as well go North-South, separated by the Mason-Dixon line, and set the stage…

Posted: **Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:34 pm**

NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:19 pm There’s going to be 2 mega conferences. An SEC and a Big 10. And they’ll probably change names/break away from NCAA. Probably something like 36 teams in each.

I don't hate that idea. I'll be honest, the only one thing I'm rooting for in the endgame of all this conference shuffling is the death of the NCAA. So the more chaos the better.

Posted: **Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:47 pm**

that’s all?

for me, KU ending up with the “haves” rather than the “have nots” is more important

Posted: **Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:47 pm**

UnholyLivingDead wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:34 pm
NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:19 pm There’s going to be 2 mega conferences. An SEC and a Big 10. And they’ll probably change names/break away from NCAA. Probably something like 36 teams in each.
I don't hate that idea. I'll be honest, the only one thing I'm rooting for in the endgame of all this conference shuffling is the death of the NCAA. So the more chaos the better.

I want the death of the NCAA as well, but should it get to where we are in a 72 team Power College Sports Alliance with Big 10 and SEC brass making the rules, it's not like I have a ton of faith that they won't come up with their own fucked up, stupid rules.

Posted: **Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:01 pm**

KUTradition wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:47 pm that’s all?

for me, KU ending up with the “haves” rather than the “have nots” is more important

Yeah, that's all. I'm not too stressed about where KU stands in the hierarchy of top 64 or 72 teams worthy of a spot in the group that breaks away.

Posted: **Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:03 pm**

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:47 pm
UnholyLivingDead wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:34 pm
NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:19 pm There’s going to be 2 mega conferences. An SEC and a Big 10. And they’ll probably change names/break away from NCAA. Probably something like 36 teams in each.
I don't hate that idea. I'll be honest, the only one thing I'm rooting for in the endgame of all this conference shuffling is the death of the NCAA. So the more chaos the better.
I want the death of the NCAA as well, but should it get to where we are in a 72 team Power College Sports Alliance with Big 10 and SEC brass making the rules, it's not like I have a ton of faith that they won't come up with their own fucked up, stupid rules.

No matter who makes the rules, they'll always be completely arbitrary and stupid. It's the NCAA's inconsistency in enforcement and the fact that they think they have no responsibility in pushing college sports to this point by not reigning everything in sooner that makes me excited to see it go away.

Posted: **Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:49 pm**

UnholyLivingDead wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:01 pm
KUTradition wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:47 pm that’s all?

for me, KU ending up with the “haves” rather than the “have nots” is more important
Yeah, that's all. I'm not too stressed about where KU stands in the hierarchy of top 64 or 72 teams worthy of a spot in the group that breaks away.

Very much agree that this is all very binary for KU (and the Big 12, generally).

The new Big 12 commish should go for a Pac 12 killshot, like grabbing the two Arizona schools to-fucking-morrow. That puts the league at 16, and us (and KSU and ISU, etc.) on the good side of the cut line.

The Los Angeles schools leaving the Pac 12 means the lesser Pac 12 schools (Utah, Washington State) are now at the most acute risk of getting left out. Make it so, Big 12.

Posted: **Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:57 pm**

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:49 pm
UnholyLivingDead wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:01 pm
KUTradition wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:47 pm that’s all?

for me, KU ending up with the “haves” rather than the “have nots” is more important
Yeah, that's all. I'm not too stressed about where KU stands in the hierarchy of top 64 or 72 teams worthy of a spot in the group that breaks away.
Very much agree that this is all very binary for KU (and the Big 12, generally).

The new Big 12 commish should go for a Pac 12 killshot, like grabbing the two Arizona schools to-fucking-morrow. That puts the league at 16, and us (and KSU and ISU, etc.) on the good side of the cut line.

The Los Angeles schools leaving the Pac 12 means the lesser Pac 12 schools (Utah, Washington State) are now at the most acute risk of getting left out. Make it so, Big 12.

The timing of this makes it interesting because it sounds like they are targeting the new commissioner's start date as August 1. And nobody trusts Bob Bowlsby, let alone a lame duck Bob Bowlsby. Curious to see if the new guy takes the reigns earlier. Plus we're going to find out if he's cut out for this real fast.

The Arizona schools are a great place to start but you still have get 2 more schools on the line or else you're back down to 14 when OU and Texas actually leave.

Posted: **Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:59 pm**

UnholyLivingDead wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:57 pm
jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:49 pm
UnholyLivingDead wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:01 pm

Yeah, that's all. I'm not too stressed about where KU stands in the hierarchy of top 64 or 72 teams worthy of a spot in the group that breaks away.
Very much agree that this is all very binary for KU (and the Big 12, generally).

The new Big 12 commish should go for a Pac 12 killshot, like grabbing the two Arizona schools to-fucking-morrow. That puts the league at 16, and us (and KSU and ISU, etc.) on the good side of the cut line.

The Los Angeles schools leaving the Pac 12 means the lesser Pac 12 schools (Utah, Washington State) are now at the most acute risk of getting left out. Make it so, Big 12.
The timing of this makes it interesting because it sounds like they are targeting the new commissioner's start date as August 1. And nobody trusts Bob Bowlsby, let alone a lame duck Bob Bowlsby. Curious to see if the new guy takes the reigns earlier. Plus we're going to find out if he's cut out for this real fast.

The Arizona schools are a great place to start but you still have get 2 more schools on the line or else you're back down to 14 when OU and Texas actually leave.

Fine. I'm good with...Colorado and Utah, too. Something like that.

I do not want either of the other two California schools.

For as much as I am a "PAY THE PLAYERS" lefty, I am terrified of doing business with schools where the players may well be employees before long. Too risky.

Posted: **Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:59 pm**

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:49 pm
UnholyLivingDead wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:01 pm
KUTradition wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:47 pm that’s all?

for me, KU ending up with the “haves” rather than the “have nots” is more important
Yeah, that's all. I'm not too stressed about where KU stands in the hierarchy of top 64 or 72 teams worthy of a spot in the group that breaks away.
Very much agree that this is all very binary for KU (and the Big 12, generally).

The new Big 12 commish should go for a Pac 12 killshot, like grabbing the two Arizona schools to-fucking-morrow. That puts the league at 16, and us (and KSU and ISU, etc.) on the good side of the cut line.

The Los Angeles schools leaving the Pac 12 means the lesser Pac 12 schools (Utah, Washington State) are now at the most acute risk of getting left out. Make it so, Big 12.

I'm not sure Arizona and ASU save the Big 12. Still a conference full of trash.

Would be better for KU to join the Pac 12. Take one of Houston, Texas Tech or BYU(

) with us.

Posted: **Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:00 pm**

Posted: **Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:01 pm**

Cascadia wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:59 pm
jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:49 pm
UnholyLivingDead wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:01 pm

Yeah, that's all. I'm not too stressed about where KU stands in the hierarchy of top 64 or 72 teams worthy of a spot in the group that breaks away.
Very much agree that this is all very binary for KU (and the Big 12, generally).

The new Big 12 commish should go for a Pac 12 killshot, like grabbing the two Arizona schools to-fucking-morrow. That puts the league at 16, and us (and KSU and ISU, etc.) on the good side of the cut line.

The Los Angeles schools leaving the Pac 12 means the lesser Pac 12 schools (Utah, Washington State) are now at the most acute risk of getting left out. Make it so, Big 12.
I'm not sure Arizona and ASU save the Big 12. Still a conference full of trash.

Would be better for KU to join the Pac 12. Take one of Houston, Texas Tech or BYU() with us.

I actually disagree. A Pac 12 without the Los Angeles schools is significantly weaker than what the Big 12 would be, even subbing the Arizona schools for UT and OU.

Posted: **Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:07 pm**

The Pac 12 will still have

6. San Francisco
13. Seattle
14. Phoenix
16. Denver
23. Sacramento
26. Portland
35. Salt Lake City

What cities can you legitimately assign the Big 12?

7. Dallas
29. Kansas City

What else?

Posted: **Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:08 pm**

Posted: **Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:08 pm**

Cascadia wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:07 pm The Pac 12 will still have

6. San Francisco
13. Seattle
14. Phoenix
16. Denver
23. Sacramento
26. Portland
35. Salt Lake City

What cities can you legitimately assign the Big 12?

7. Dallas
29. Kansas City

What else?

Houston
Cincinnati
A nationwide Mormon base?

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