Conference Realignment..?

[Cascadia]

9. Houston
28. Cincinnati

But I also think you can still count some portion of LA, San Diego and Las Vegas into the Pac 12 footprint.

Big 12 is a sinking ship

[Cascadia]

LDS church reported 16.5M members in 2019. What percentage of those do you think legitimately follows college sports? I'd think 25% would be generous. That's 4.2M, good for 15th.

[UnholyLivingDead]

9. Houston
28. Cincinnati

But I also think you can still count some portion of LA, San Diego and Las Vegas into the Pac 12 footprint.

Big 12 is a sinking ship

There's certainly a portion of LA you can still count in the Pac 12 footprint. Vegas is an anomaly. Is there really a dedicated Pac 12 media market there? Seems like a rare nationwide thing you can't pin down since it's mostly a destination for people to go watch national games on bet on them.

[CrimsonNBlue]

9. Houston
28. Cincinnati

But I also think you can still count some portion of LA, San Diego and Las Vegas into the Pac 12 footprint.

Big 12 is a sinking ship

IMO, the Pac 12's problems have nothing to do with population base. They could be in some trouble. California is not some big proponent in revenue athletics. I think you could say the same, to a lesser degree, about some of the PNW as well.

[jfish26]

The Pac 12 will still have

6. San Francisco
13. Seattle
14. Phoenix
16. Denver
23. Sacramento
26. Portland
35. Salt Lake City

What cities can you legitimately assign the Big 12?

7. Dallas
29. Kansas City

What else?

I think this is a bit of an outdated way to look at it (assuming you're making it about TV market size).

[nu_bronco]

I am okay with this idea.

[KUTradition]

The Pac 12 will still have

6. San Francisco
13. Seattle
14. Phoenix
16. Denver
23. Sacramento
26. Portland
35. Salt Lake City

What cities can you legitimately assign the Big 12?

7. Dallas
29. Kansas City

What else?

Houston
Cincinnati
A nationwide Mormon base?

not that it matters a ton in this context, but the Mormon base is international

[Cascadia]

The Pac 12 will still have

6. San Francisco
13. Seattle
14. Phoenix
16. Denver
23. Sacramento
26. Portland
35. Salt Lake City

What cities can you legitimately assign the Big 12?

7. Dallas
29. Kansas City

What else?

I think this is a bit of an outdated way to look at it (assuming you're making it about TV market size).

It's one way to look at it, not the only.


You could also look at it like the Big 12's footprint is largely filled with a bunch of Trump supporting MAGAites......

[Cascadia]

9. Houston
28. Cincinnati

But I also think you can still count some portion of LA, San Diego and Las Vegas into the Pac 12 footprint.

Big 12 is a sinking ship

There's certainly a portion of LA you can still count in the Pac 12 footprint. Vegas is an anomaly. Is there really a dedicated Pac 12 media market there? Seems like a rare nationwide thing you can't pin down since it's mostly a destination for people to go watch national games on bet on them.

Definitely agree that Vegas is an anomaly.

[UnholyLivingDead]

9. Houston
28. Cincinnati

But I also think you can still count some portion of LA, San Diego and Las Vegas into the Pac 12 footprint.

Big 12 is a sinking ship

There's certainly a portion of LA you can still count in the Pac 12 footprint. Vegas is an anomaly. Is there really a dedicated Pac 12 media market there? Seems like a rare nationwide thing you can't pin down since it's mostly a destination for people to go watch national games on bet on them.

Definitely agree that Vegas is an anomaly.

Yeah I'm certainly not nitpicking about the cities you threw out there, those are all valid points, just seems like Vegas is a difficult market to assign.

[CrimsonNBlue]

I am okay with this idea.

2 or 3 20+ team conference is on the way.

Only Big 10 or SEC. Or Big 10 and SEC going to 20ish, and then Pac-12/Big 12 leftovers for another 20ish.

[UnholyLivingDead]

Interesting to note that with the thinking being this round of expansion would see the B1G abandoning their priority on AAU institutions and now they're adding 2 AAU schools.

[Cascadia]

I am okay with this idea.

2 or 3 20+ team conference is on the way.

Only Big 10 or SEC. Or Big 10 and SEC going to 20ish, and then Pac-12/Big 12 leftovers for another 20ish.

Sign me up for

Nebraska
Minnesota
Iowa
Wisconsin
Illinois
Northwestern
Purdue
Indiana
Michigan
Michigan State
Ohio State
Penn State
Rutgers
Maryland

UCLA
USC
Stanford
Oregon
Washington

Kansas

[KUTradition]

Interesting to note that with the thinking being this round of expansion would see the B1G abandoning their priority on AAU institutions and now they're adding 2 AAU schools.

i think they’d absolutely prefer AAU schools, but that it’s also not necessarily a deal breaker

[CrimsonNBlue]

I am okay with this idea.

2 or 3 20+ team conference is on the way.

Only Big 10 or SEC. Or Big 10 and SEC going to 20ish, and then Pac-12/Big 12 leftovers for another 20ish.

Sign me up for

Nebraska
Minnesota
Iowa
Wisconsin
Illinois
Northwestern
Purdue
Indiana
Michigan
Michigan State
Ohio State
Penn State
Rutgers
Maryland

UCLA
USC
Stanford
Oregon
Washington

Kansas

I think this scenario is very preferable.

It could also mean Missouri finally gets that B1G invite. They'd be crazy not to accept, but the SEC invite was literally the only success that athletic department has ever had, and they'll hang their hat on it for a long, long time.

[Cascadia]

The new Pac 12/Big 12 combo can be

Washington State
Oregon State
BYU
Utah
California
Arizona
Arizona State
Colorado
Texas Tech
Kansas State
Iowa State
Oklahoma State
Houston
Baylor
TCU

+1 more.

[nu_bronco]

Doubled up.

[nu_bronco]

Sign me up for

Nebraska
Minnesota
Iowa
Wisconsin
Illinois
Northwestern
Purdue
Indiana
Michigan
Michigan State
Ohio State
Penn State
Rutgers
Maryland

UCLA
USC
Stanford
Oregon
Washington

Kansas

I would prefer Colorado over say Washington to save a little on travel.

[CrimsonNBlue]

USC and UCLA to B1G is official.

[Deleted User 863]

Yikes.