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Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:10 pm
by Cascadia
9. Houston
28. Cincinnati
But I also think you can still count some portion of LA, San Diego and Las Vegas into the Pac 12 footprint.
Big 12 is a sinking ship
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:12 pm
by Cascadia
LDS church reported 16.5M members in 2019. What percentage of those do you think legitimately follows college sports? I'd think 25% would be generous. That's 4.2M, good for 15th.
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:16 pm
by UnholyLivingDead
Cascadia wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:10 pm
9. Houston
28. Cincinnati
But I also think you can still count some portion of LA, San Diego and Las Vegas into the Pac 12 footprint.
Big 12 is a sinking ship
There's certainly a portion of LA you can still count in the Pac 12 footprint. Vegas is an anomaly. Is there really a dedicated Pac 12 media market there? Seems like a rare nationwide thing you can't pin down since it's mostly a destination for people to go watch national games on bet on them.
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:16 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
Cascadia wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:10 pm
9. Houston
28. Cincinnati
But I also think you can still count some portion of LA, San Diego and Las Vegas into the Pac 12 footprint.
Big 12 is a sinking ship
IMO, the Pac 12's problems have nothing to do with population base. They could be in some trouble. California is not some big proponent in revenue athletics. I think you could say the same, to a lesser degree, about some of the PNW as well.
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:21 pm
by jfish26
Cascadia wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:07 pm
The Pac 12 will still have
6. San Francisco
13. Seattle
14. Phoenix
16. Denver
23. Sacramento
26. Portland
35. Salt Lake City
What cities can you legitimately assign the Big 12?
7. Dallas
29. Kansas City
What else?
I think this is a bit of an outdated way to look at it (assuming you're making it about TV market size).
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:25 pm
by nu_bronco
I am okay with this idea.
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:27 pm
by KUTradition
UnholyLivingDead wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:08 pm
Cascadia wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:07 pm
The Pac 12 will still have
6. San Francisco
13. Seattle
14. Phoenix
16. Denver
23. Sacramento
26. Portland
35. Salt Lake City
What cities can you legitimately assign the Big 12?
7. Dallas
29. Kansas City
What else?
Houston
Cincinnati
A nationwide Mormon base?
not that it matters a ton in this context, but the Mormon base is international
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:29 pm
by Cascadia
jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:21 pm
Cascadia wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:07 pm
The Pac 12 will still have
6. San Francisco
13. Seattle
14. Phoenix
16. Denver
23. Sacramento
26. Portland
35. Salt Lake City
What cities can you legitimately assign the Big 12?
7. Dallas
29. Kansas City
What else?
I think this is a bit of an outdated way to look at it (assuming you're making it about TV market size).
It's one way to look at it, not the only.
You could also look at it like the Big 12's footprint is largely filled with a bunch of Trump supporting MAGAites......
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:29 pm
by Cascadia
UnholyLivingDead wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:16 pm
Cascadia wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:10 pm
9. Houston
28. Cincinnati
But I also think you can still count some portion of LA, San Diego and Las Vegas into the Pac 12 footprint.
Big 12 is a sinking ship
There's certainly a portion of LA you can still count in the Pac 12 footprint. Vegas is an anomaly. Is there really a dedicated Pac 12 media market there? Seems like a rare nationwide thing you can't pin down since it's mostly a destination for people to go watch national games on bet on them.
Definitely agree that Vegas is an anomaly.
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:32 pm
by UnholyLivingDead
Cascadia wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:29 pm
UnholyLivingDead wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:16 pm
Cascadia wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:10 pm
9. Houston
28. Cincinnati
But I also think you can still count some portion of LA, San Diego and Las Vegas into the Pac 12 footprint.
Big 12 is a sinking ship
There's certainly a portion of LA you can still count in the Pac 12 footprint. Vegas is an anomaly. Is there really a dedicated Pac 12 media market there? Seems like a rare nationwide thing you can't pin down since it's mostly a destination for people to go watch national games on bet on them.
Definitely agree that Vegas is an anomaly.
Yeah I'm certainly not nitpicking about the cities you threw out there, those are all valid points, just seems like Vegas is a difficult market to assign.
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:32 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
nu_bronco wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:25 pm
I am okay with this idea.
2 or 3 20+ team conference is on the way.
Only Big 10 or SEC. Or Big 10 and SEC going to 20ish, and then Pac-12/Big 12 leftovers for another 20ish.
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:45 pm
by UnholyLivingDead
Interesting to note that with the thinking being this round of expansion would see the B1G abandoning their priority on AAU institutions and now they're adding 2 AAU schools.
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:56 pm
by Cascadia
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:32 pm
nu_bronco wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:25 pm
I am okay with this idea.
2 or 3 20+ team conference is on the way.
Only Big 10 or SEC. Or Big 10 and SEC going to 20ish, and then Pac-12/Big 12 leftovers for another 20ish.
Sign me up for
Nebraska
Minnesota
Iowa
Wisconsin
Illinois
Northwestern
Purdue
Indiana
Michigan
Michigan State
Ohio State
Penn State
Rutgers
Maryland
UCLA
USC
Stanford
Oregon
Washington
Kansas
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:56 pm
by KUTradition
UnholyLivingDead wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:45 pm
Interesting to note that with the thinking being this round of expansion would see the B1G abandoning their priority on AAU institutions and now they're adding 2 AAU schools.
i think they’d absolutely prefer AAU schools, but that it’s also not necessarily a deal breaker
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 4:02 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
Cascadia wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:56 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:32 pm
nu_bronco wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:25 pm
I am okay with this idea.
2 or 3 20+ team conference is on the way.
Only Big 10 or SEC. Or Big 10 and SEC going to 20ish, and then Pac-12/Big 12 leftovers for another 20ish.
Sign me up for
Nebraska
Minnesota
Iowa
Wisconsin
Illinois
Northwestern
Purdue
Indiana
Michigan
Michigan State
Ohio State
Penn State
Rutgers
Maryland
UCLA
USC
Stanford
Oregon
Washington
Kansas
I think this scenario is very preferable.
It could also mean Missouri finally gets that B1G invite. They'd be crazy not to accept, but the SEC invite was literally the only success that athletic department has ever had, and they'll hang their hat on it for a long, long time.
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 4:26 pm
by Cascadia
The new Pac 12/Big 12 combo can be
Washington State
Oregon State
BYU
Utah
California
Arizona
Arizona State
Colorado
Texas Tech
Kansas State
Iowa State
Oklahoma State
Houston
Baylor
TCU
+1 more.
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:59 pm
by nu_bronco
Doubled up.
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 6:01 pm
by nu_bronco
Cascadia wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:56 pm
Sign me up for
Nebraska
Minnesota
Iowa
Wisconsin
Illinois
Northwestern
Purdue
Indiana
Michigan
Michigan State
Ohio State
Penn State
Rutgers
Maryland
UCLA
USC
Stanford
Oregon
Washington
Kansas
I would prefer Colorado over say Washington to save a little on travel.
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 7:04 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
USC and UCLA to B1G is official.
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 7:09 pm
by Deleted User 863
Yikes.