Kansas Crimson

BiggDick wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:41 am
Do you think Hunter will ever play in 25 NBA games?

pdub wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:41 am

BiggDick wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:34 am

pdub wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:31 am

Hunter had 18 PPG on 55% FG shooting last season.

This is an illy move - try to argue something by pointing to a peripheral stat, if that.

Yea, Hunter scores a lot of points, but physicality and athleticism are things that aren't directly measured in box scores.

He scores most of his points in the post and in no small part ( pun ) because he is physically bigger than the players he's playing against.

BiggDick wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:44 am

pdub wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:41 am

BiggDick wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:34 am

This is an illy move - try to argue something by pointing to a peripheral stat, if that.

Yea, Hunter scores a lot of points, but physicality and athleticism are things that aren't directly measured in box scores.

He scores most of his points in the post and in no small part ( pun ) because he is physically bigger than the players he's playing against.

yea, he is.

As has been mentioned, he's 7 foot 2!

Just for fun real quick, imagine if Dok was that tall.

BiggDick wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:42 am

TDub wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:39 am I can't believe this argument is still going on. amazing.

yea, it IS amazing.

the hoops bored was dead without me!

DeletedUser wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 6:33 am
DH
Moore
Coit
Mayo
Griffen
Storr
Kj
HD
Bidunga

That's 10 guys.

KUTradition wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 9:08 am i’ll never understand the need to so regularly shit on the team someone is supposedly a fan of

criticism is one thing, but going out of one’s way to tear down program guys is something else altogether

pdub wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:56 am I just want to sum this up before I get back to work.

Ous thinks a guy who is an All American and could be a 1st team All American and B12POY this season, who has a been on a defensive 1st team ( in a power 5 conference ), and is an excellent defensive rebounder, wouldn't be as good on a college basketball roster as a dude ( a very lovable dude mind you ) who didn't start his senior year and eventually, after playing for years overseas, got into 25 games in the NBA.

He also thinks being 7 foot 2 with a long wingspan discounts you from being able to easily score because, well, I guess it's not physical enough, despite the huge advantage of being 7 foot 2 with a long wingspan being physical.

There's other stuff there but that's the gist.
Have at it everyone.

DeletedUser wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:01 am At the 4 KJ is a net positive defensively and a net negative offensively.

At the 5 KJ is a net negative on both sides of the ball.

Defensively Bidunga almost certainly is superior to KJ at the 5, even with limited experience.

BiggDick wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 9:14 am

KUTradition wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 9:08 am i’ll never understand the need to so regularly shit on the team someone is supposedly a fan of

criticism is one thing, but going out of one’s way to tear down program guys is something else altogether

I only mean to be critical, and don't mean to "shit" on the team.

For me, it's fanboy pessimism. After the core of guys who ended up getting their asses kicked on the reg last season ended up being the same core of guys we returned and are building around this season, it's just the first season since becoming a KU fan I don't feel confident we could enjoy the highest of expectations.

But, if I can try for more cautious optimism, maybe we'll see the right combo of development from the returning core and also significant contributions from the newcomers, to do big things after all.

And, ok, I'll admit. I suppose it's a certain pride thing of my own, but...when other posters engage me not simply with arguing different points or disagreeing on the substance of the discussion, but also with personal attacks and condescension, I can't help but feel some instinct to at least try and stand up for myself.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 10:25 am

DeletedUser wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:01 am At the 4 KJ is a net positive defensively and a net negative offensively.

At the 5 KJ is a net negative on both sides of the ball.

Defensively Bidunga almost certainly is superior to KJ at the 5, even with limited experience.

I'm not HAPPY about it, and certainly there are 40 or so games to prove this wrong, but - it seems like the most likely conclusion is that KJ's body and the things KJ is good at just don't really, at the contender level, work together as anything more than a role player.