Kansas Crimson

chiknbut wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:56 am

TDub wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:35 am

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:02 am

can’t make this shit up

Dont act so high and mighty. You have absolutey 0 idea how things would be had thwy gone the other way. None. Dont pretend you do.

Obviously this is true. But what has driven a lot of people away from Trump and politics in general is the lack of dignity he has brought to the office.

It's fair to say that any other candidate wouldn't have taken the country down this road.

I understand the dislike of trump. I do.

I dont like that it has caused people to feel like they are so superior for diskiking him.

And, we dont know how Hillarywould have led, or the decisions she would have made or the embarrasments she would or would not have had. I know a person (a generally very liberal person) who was around her quite a bit 6-8 years ago who had nothing good to say about her decisions, how she treated people, or her morals.

TDub wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:10 am

chiknbut wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:56 am

TDub wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:35 am


Dont act so high and mighty. You have absolutey 0 idea how things would be had thwy gone the other way. None. Dont pretend you do.

Obviously this is true. But what has driven a lot of people away from Trump and politics in general is the lack of dignity he has brought to the office.

It's fair to say that any other candidate wouldn't have taken the country down this road.

I understand the dislike of trump. I do.

I dont like that it has caused people to feel like they are so superior for diskiking him.

And, we dont know how Hillarywould have led, or the decisions she would have made or the embarrasments she would or would not have had. I know a person (a generally very liberal person) who was around her quite a bit 6-8 years ago who had nothing good to say about her decisions, how she treated people, or her morals.

Clearly you didn't even read what I wrote. Whatever.

Sure. Whatever you say. Clearly you didnt read what I wrote. As it was an expansion on my comment about hjgh horses, and a response to your dignity comment.

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:03 am the lack of dignity he has brought to the office.

I mean...lulz.

You should take a break

Oh good, Alan Dershowitz!

Alan "I went to Epstein's but only had massages with old, ugly Russian women" Dershowitz?

So, anyone notice that the trial to impeach our President starts early next week? Will any users here who live in a state with a Republican Senator have an issue if their senator votes to not allow witnesses for the trial? I am preparing to sit down and type up an email to my senators, Ben Sasse and Deb Fischer, this weekend.

Being in the Republican held state of Nebraska, I have zero delusions that they would vote for impeachment. That would be the instant end of their political careers in this state. But I expect them to uphold their oaths and conduct a true trial to at least allow the full account of what happened to be entered into record. The House tried but the White obstructed their efforts at every turn. The Senate now must also make an effort. Bolton has clearly stated that he will testify if served with a subpoena.

Allowing this to proceed with no additional witnesses called would be a stain on this nation's history. There is clearly additional relevant information to be heard from people in direct knowledge of the circumstances surrounding the charges. Ignoring that is to ignore the Constitution and the laws of our land out of fear-based blind loyalty.

Feral wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:50 am

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:03 am the lack of dignity he has brought to the office.

I mean...lulz.

You should take a break

Nah. I just happen to remember the guy who stuck cigars up interns. cUZ diGniTY.

Feral wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:55 am Oh good, Alan Dershowitz!

I'm going to assume these were the only people who would say yes, cuz...jeez.

TDub wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:35 am

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:02 am

seahawk wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:08 am Are you asking that seriously?

can’t make this shit up

Dont act so high and mighty. You have absolutey 0 idea how things would be had thwy gone the other way. None. Dont pretend you do.

You’re right. I’m not trying to pretend.

My “can’t make this shit up” comment was with regard to all the Mericans who refuse to even pay attention to the allegations against the incumbent potus, yet put so much of their attention to melting down - still! - about the candidate who lost.

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:07 pm

Feral wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:50 am

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:03 am the lack of dignity he has brought to the office.

I mean...lulz.

You should take a break

Nah. I just happen to remember the guy who stuck cigars up interns. cUZ diGniTY.

Sorry, I didn't realize that in your world being appalled when I learned what Clinton did ~ 20 years ago excluded me from being appalled at Trump's behavior, but I do now.

Because


mutually exclusive

zero-sum

scorched earth

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Feral wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:37 pm

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:07 pm

Feral wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:50 am

You should take a break

Nah. I just happen to remember the guy who stuck cigars up interns. cUZ diGniTY.

Sorry, I didn't realize that in your world being appalled when I learned what Clinton did ~ 20 years ago excluded me from being appalled at Trump's behavior, but I do now.

Because


mutually exclusive

zero-sum

scorched earth

rinse

repeat

Settle down.

I lulz'ed at Chikn's statement that Trump "brought" indignity to the presidency. And I merely pointed out that that particular ship sailed a long time ago. Don't get me started on Kennedy and Johnson...

None of that means that Trump doesn't deserve what he is getting. Each incident has to be treated discretely, obviously.

But the idea that the office was somehow dignified before Trump is just...well...ignorant.

I mean, why are you accusing me of having 0 idea how Dowdy woulda went when I’m not among those talking about how Dowdy woulda went?

Why not take that discussion to those who won’t shut up about how bad she woulda been? You think they have any idea?

and feral, just go ahead and add DC to the list of folks who deflect from addressing anything Trump has done cuz they can’t not stop talking about the Clintons.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:44 pm I mean, why are you accusing me of having 0 idea how Dowdy woulda went when I’m not among those talking about how Dowdy woulda went?

Why not take that discussion to those who won’t shut up about how bad she woulda been? You think they have any idea?

Dowdy woulda been corrupt. 30 years of precedent tell us that. But that doesn't mean that Trump gets a pass. Lesser of two evils is still an evil. Or something like that.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:45 pm and feral, just go ahead and add DC to the list of folks who deflect from addressing anything Trump has done cuz they can’t get the Clintons outta their heads.

lulz

None of that means that Trump doesn't deserve what he is getting. Each incident has to be treated discretely, obviously.

that doesn’t mean Trump gets a pass, indeed, but do realize how many Mericans refuse to realize that?

What IS Trump getting?

A get out of jail free card at a kangaroo court trial, courtesy of all them law and order republicans?

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:49 pm that doesn’t mean Trump gets a pass, indeed, but do realize how many Mericans refuse to realize that?

What's that have to do with me?

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:50 pm What IS Trump getting?

A get out of jail free card at a kangaroo court trial, courtesy of all them law and order republicans?

You don't know that.