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Feral wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:55 am Oh good, Alan Dershowitz!

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:49 pm that doesn’t mean Trump gets a pass, indeed, but do realize how many Mericans refuse to realize that?

Not nearly as many as you think. Stop watching so much fox news.

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:41 pm

Feral wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:37 pm

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:07 pm

Nah. I just happen to remember the guy who stuck cigars up interns. cUZ diGniTY.

Sorry, I didn't realize that in your world being appalled when I learned what Clinton did ~ 20 years ago excluded me from being appalled at Trump's behavior, but I do now.

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Settle down.

I lulz'ed at Chikn's statement that Trump "brought" indignity to the presidency. And I merely pointed out that that particular ship sailed a long time ago. Don't get me started on Kennedy and Johnson...

None of that means that Trump doesn't deserve what he is getting. Each incident has to be treated discretely, obviously.

But the idea that the office was somehow dignified before Trump is just...well...ignorant.

World leaders weren't openly laughing at Clinton even after the Lewinsky issues. They are openly laughing at Trump.

I agree that Chikn's comments are laughable; the nationwide poop flinging going on shows that "dignity" is not high on some folks' requirements. But there's no doubt that Trump has uniquely lowered the bar on just about every measurable when it comes to behavior, class, decorum and opinion of our nation in the eyes of the rest of the world.

The entire public discourse is just more disgusting since 2016 and it has absolutely become normal.

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:55 pm

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:41 pm

Feral wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:37 pm

Sorry, I didn't realize that in your world being appalled when I learned what Clinton did ~ 20 years ago excluded me from being appalled at Trump's behavior, but I do now.

Because


mutually exclusive

zero-sum

scorched earth

rinse

repeat

Settle down.

I lulz'ed at Chikn's statement that Trump "brought" indignity to the presidency. And I merely pointed out that that particular ship sailed a long time ago. Don't get me started on Kennedy and Johnson...

None of that means that Trump doesn't deserve what he is getting. Each incident has to be treated discretely, obviously.

But the idea that the office was somehow dignified before Trump is just...well...ignorant.

World leaders weren't openly laughing at Clinton even after the Lewinsky issues. They are openly laughing at Trump.

Why the fuck do I care what world leaders do?

Besides, the Left has said this EXACT SAME THING about every Republican since Reagan.

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:48 pm

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:44 pm I mean, why are you accusing me of having 0 idea how Dowdy woulda went when I’m not among those talking about how Dowdy woulda went?

Why not take that discussion to those who won’t shut up about how bad she woulda been? You think they have any idea?

Dowdy woulda been corrupt. 30 years of precedent tell us that. But that doesn't mean that Trump gets a pass. Lesser of two evils is still an evil. Or something like that.

There is still a very real possibility that the Republican controlled Senate could vote to conclude the trial on impeachment without calling a single witness. A gross neglect of duty and oath may occur and we're here pointlessly arguing about some crazy lady's rant video and about whether pointing out Fox News' "token black" is racist or not.

If this isnt the definition of "getting a pass" then I dont know what is.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:49 pm that doesn’t mean Trump gets a pass, indeed, but do realize how many Mericans refuse to realize that?

Do you?


I know 1 person hung up on Hillary here and 1 person thinking Trump gets a free pass.

Stop basing your opinions on reports on fox and friends

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:00 pm

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:48 pm

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:44 pm I mean, why are you accusing me of having 0 idea how Dowdy woulda went when I’m not among those talking about how Dowdy woulda went?

Why not take that discussion to those who won’t shut up about how bad she woulda been? You think they have any idea?

Dowdy woulda been corrupt. 30 years of precedent tell us that. But that doesn't mean that Trump gets a pass. Lesser of two evils is still an evil. Or something like that.

There is still a very real possibility that the Republican controlled Senate could vote to conclude the trial on impeachment without calling a single witness. A gross neglect of duty and oath may occur and we're here pointlessly arguing about some crazy lady's rant video and about whether pointing out Fox News' "token black" is racist or not.

If this isnt the definition of "getting a pass" then I dont know what is.

Yes, there is a distinct possibility that will happen. I hope it will not -- for a variety of reasons.

Nevertheless, even if it does happen, in less than 11 months, the entire nation gets its chance to hold him accountable.

And speak for yourself. I have exactly ZERO posts on the video and the "token" question.

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:58 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:55 pm

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:41 pm

Settle down.

I lulz'ed at Chikn's statement that Trump "brought" indignity to the presidency. And I merely pointed out that that particular ship sailed a long time ago. Don't get me started on Kennedy and Johnson...

None of that means that Trump doesn't deserve what he is getting. Each incident has to be treated discretely, obviously.

But the idea that the office was somehow dignified before Trump is just...well...ignorant.

World leaders weren't openly laughing at Clinton even after the Lewinsky issues. They are openly laughing at Trump.

Why the fuck do I care what world leaders do?

Besides, the Left has said this EXACT SAME THING about every Republican since Reagan.

Why should we care whether our not other nations respect our leader? Oh, gee, I dont know. Come on.

As for your Whataboutism, I don't believe it was anything remotely resembling this hot mess. I personally thought G.W. Bush was a bit of a dope and that he lied like a busted teenager but I never felt he fundamentally embarrassed our nation like Trump has. There maybe a few examples out there that you no doubt already have cued up to share, but I could find a few examples of just about any public figure on the planet being disliked by someone.

Some day, you should spend a few minutes in the archives of .com.

Chimpy McBushitler was the most embarrassing president evar!

Also, he didn't have dementia, like the current president (and our current football coach). But it was clear that he drinking again, at the very least, and possibly using again. Cuz reasons.

"lulz"

Hillary Clinton is the most exonerated politician ever

Justice Dept. winds down Clinton-related inquiry once championed by Trump. It found nothing of consequence.

A Justice Department inquiry launched more than two years ago to mollify conservatives clamoring for more investigations of Hillary Clinton has effectively ended with no tangible results, and current and former law enforcement officials said they never expected the effort to produce much of anything.
John Huber, the U.S. attorney in Utah, was tapped in November 2017 by then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions to look into concerns raised by President Trump and his allies in Congress that the FBI had not fully pursued cases of possible corruption at the Clinton Foundation and during Clinton’s time as secretary of state, when the U.S. government decided not to block the sale of a company called Uranium One...

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:48 pm
Dowdy woulda been corrupt. 30 years of precedent tell us that. But that doesn't mean that Trump gets a pass. Lesser of two evils is still an evil. Or something like that.

TDub wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:35 am
Dont act so high and mighty. You have absolutey 0 idea how things would be had thwy gone the other way. None. Dont pretend you do.

We would have President Kaine before two years were up.

Feral wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:37 pm

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:07 pm

Feral wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:50 am

You should take a break

Nah. I just happen to remember the guy who stuck cigars up interns. cUZ diGniTY.

Sorry, I didn't realize that in your world being appalled when I learned what Clinton did ~ 20 years ago excluded me from being appalled at Trump's behavior, but I do now.

Because

mutually exclusive

zero-sum

scorched earth

rinse

repeat

Interesting that Republicans never mention Barack Obama and have to go into the Wayback Machine to dredge up sexual stuff about Bill Clinton.

seahawk wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:49 pm

Feral wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:37 pm

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:07 pm

Nah. I just happen to remember the guy who stuck cigars up interns. cUZ diGniTY.

Sorry, I didn't realize that in your world being appalled when I learned what Clinton did ~ 20 years ago excluded me from being appalled at Trump's behavior, but I do now.

Because

mutually exclusive

zero-sum

scorched earth

rinse

repeat

Interesting that Republicans never mention Barack Obama and have to go into the Wayback Machine to dredge up sexual stuff about Bill Clinton.

Because Obama, whether you like his policies and attitude or not, was not a womanizer...

And it's not a "way back machine", it's literally the last democrat president before Obama.....

Never heard anything negative about Bush in that sense either iirc.

So we're batting about 50% over the last 4 presidents of womanizers. We sure know how to pick em.

better use some tic tacs, just in case.

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:07 pm

Feral wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:50 am

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:03 am the lack of dignity he has brought to the office.

I mean...lulz.

You should take a break

Nah. I just happen to remember the guy who stuck cigars up interns. cUZ diGniTY.

where’d all the GOP homies go that were claiming moral superiority as being enough to impeach slick willy?

Around and around we go. It only matters when the other side does it. Duh!

Feral wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:55 am Oh good, Alan Dershowitz!

to wit: