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Re: Israel/Palestine

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2024 7:17 am
by KUTradition
the Israeli’s may not be 100% truthful, but anyone who trusts what any of the hamas mouthpieces say needs to have their goddamn head examined

Re: Israel/Palestine

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2024 11:53 am
by dolomite
Reminds me of the time when Saddam Hussein claimed the U.S. bombed a baby milk factory.🤔

Re: Israel/Palestine

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2024 6:39 pm
by RainbowsandUnicorns
6, 12, 24, 48, 72, 96? = How many hours before Beirut has bombs raining down on it.
Many Israeli are pissed it hasn't happened already.

Re: Israel/Palestine

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2024 8:38 pm
by Sparko
The horrible truth is that Hamas was trying to provoke the extreme reaction they are getting. Stupid and evil.

Re: Israel/Palestine

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2024 7:15 am
by RainbowsandUnicorns
Sparko wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 8:38 pm The horrible truth is that Hamas was trying to provoke the extreme reaction they are getting. Stupid and evil.
The horrible truth is.... what I posted was more about Hezbollah than Hamas, and it would be nice if people woke up and realized Israel HAS to fight (retaliate) to insure its survival, and come to the realization that we live in a really fucked up world when there are so many evil people full of hatred, and it's often the innocent good people who ultimately suffer and pay the price because of it.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c29dydz84ngo

Re: Israel/Palestine

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:42 pm
by dolomite
https://m.jpost.com/opinion/article-812251
Interesting article re Kamala.

Re: Israel/Palestine

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 7:12 am
by RainbowsandUnicorns
What will be the Haniyeh reciprocation?
Go......

Re: Israel/Palestine

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 7:53 am
by jhawks99
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2024 7:12 am What will be the Haniyeh reciprocation?
Go......

More dead kids

Re: Israel/Palestine

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 8:30 am
by Sparko
And, Gutter, there is a difference between fighting and extreme reactions. Better readiness should have been a given too.

Re: Israel/Palestine

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 11:09 am
by dolomite

Re: Israel/Palestine

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 11:16 am
by MICHHAWK
that part of the world is hopeless. we need to get rid of it. before it brings the rest of us down.

Re: Israel/Palestine

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 11:29 am
by KUTradition
you need some new, non-bigoted material

Re: Israel/Palestine

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2024 5:13 pm
by dolomite
https://newlinesmag.com/argument/cheap- ... fers/Cheap Houthi Drones Are Draining the Pentagon’s Coffers
While seeking an inexpensive alternative, the US military spends hundreds of millions to battle against low-cost attacks

How long does this go on? Does the U.S. need help or maybe a different strategy?

Re: Israel/Palestine

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2024 6:21 pm
by KUTradition
dolomite wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 5:13 pm https://newlinesmag.com/argument/cheap- ... fers/Cheap Houthi Drones Are Draining the Pentagon’s Coffers
While seeking an inexpensive alternative, the US military spends hundreds of millions to battle against low-cost attacks

How long does this go on? Does the U.S. need help or maybe a different strategy?
seems to me the options are 1) do nothing, 2) use high dollar options, or 3) use manpower

Re: Israel/Palestine

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2024 6:37 pm
by jfish26
KUTradition wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 6:21 pm
dolomite wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 5:13 pm https://newlinesmag.com/argument/cheap- ... fers/Cheap Houthi Drones Are Draining the Pentagon’s Coffers
While seeking an inexpensive alternative, the US military spends hundreds of millions to battle against low-cost attacks

How long does this go on? Does the U.S. need help or maybe a different strategy?
seems to me the options are 1) do nothing, 2) use high dollar options, or 3) use manpower
This is NOT the same thing as cheering on war, but: the United States absolutely benefits from learning how to manage these sorts of threats without our own servicemembers on the other end of them.

Re: Israel/Palestine

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2024 6:40 pm
by KUTradition
jfish26 wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 6:37 pm
KUTradition wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 6:21 pm
dolomite wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 5:13 pm https://newlinesmag.com/argument/cheap- ... fers/Cheap Houthi Drones Are Draining the Pentagon’s Coffers
While seeking an inexpensive alternative, the US military spends hundreds of millions to battle against low-cost attacks

How long does this go on? Does the U.S. need help or maybe a different strategy?
seems to me the options are 1) do nothing, 2) use high dollar options, or 3) use manpower
This is NOT the same thing as cheering on war, but: the United States absolutely benefits from learning how to manage these sorts of threats without our own servicemembers on the other end of them.
you war monger, you

Re: Israel/Palestine

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2024 8:12 pm
by Shirley
jfish26 wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 6:37 pm
KUTradition wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 6:21 pm
dolomite wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 5:13 pm https://newlinesmag.com/argument/cheap- ... fers/Cheap Houthi Drones Are Draining the Pentagon’s Coffers
While seeking an inexpensive alternative, the US military spends hundreds of millions to battle against low-cost attacks

How long does this go on? Does the U.S. need help or maybe a different strategy?
seems to me the options are 1) do nothing, 2) use high dollar options, or 3) use manpower
This is NOT the same thing as cheering on war, but: the United States absolutely benefits from learning how to manage these sorts of threats without our own servicemembers on the other end of them.
"manpower"

Yikes! Shudder... if there's one thing I hope we've learned, (Pro tip: We haven't), it's that invading and occupying other countries does not end well.

This situation with the Houthis/Red Sea reminds of the Afghan/Taliban proverb: "You have all the watches, we have all the time".

Re: Israel/Palestine

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2024 10:42 pm
by dolomite
KUTradition wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 6:21 pm
dolomite wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 5:13 pm https://newlinesmag.com/argument/cheap- ... fers/Cheap Houthi Drones Are Draining the Pentagon’s Coffers
While seeking an inexpensive alternative, the US military spends hundreds of millions to battle against low-cost attacks

How long does this go on? Does the U.S. need help or maybe a different strategy?
seems to me the options are 1) do nothing, 2) use high dollar options, or 3) use manpower

If we’re shooting down a $50,000 one-way drone with a $3 million missile, that’s not a good cost equation,” Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition and Sustainment William LaPlante said during testimony before a Senate subcommittee in May.”
Well, seems like we’re pretty much using option 2, without much success.

Re: Israel/Palestine

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2024 11:25 pm
by Sparko
You save valuable human lives by whatever means necessary until you innovate solutions. We have missiles. We will have lasers.

Re: Israel/Palestine

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2024 7:46 am
by KUTradition
dolomite wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 10:42 pm
KUTradition wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 6:21 pm
dolomite wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 5:13 pm https://newlinesmag.com/argument/cheap- ... fers/Cheap Houthi Drones Are Draining the Pentagon’s Coffers
While seeking an inexpensive alternative, the US military spends hundreds of millions to battle against low-cost attacks

How long does this go on? Does the U.S. need help or maybe a different strategy?
seems to me the options are 1) do nothing, 2) use high dollar options, or 3) use manpower

If we’re shooting down a $50,000 one-way drone with a $3 million missile, that’s not a good cost equation,” Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition and Sustainment William LaPlante said during testimony before a Senate subcommittee in May.”
Well, seems like we’re pretty much using option 2, without much success.
go volunteer then, if you don’t like the cost

i’m not sure what you think success should look like. have any civilian shipping vessels been pirated or sunk? is the shipping lane still open?

or, would you rather we just wipe iran and all their proxies off the face of the earth, consequences be damned?