Kansas Crimson

ousdahl wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:17 pm thanks, TDub. That's big of you to do so, and especially to acknowledge it's possible it was not accurate. No harm in that! The bigger harm would be doubling down.

If I'm a civilian, and I'm suddenly getting bombed, who cares whether I'm in a building or on a bridge? Both of those are places where it's appropriate for a civilian to be, not the kinds of places you can really blame a civilian for being there. And besides, either way, I'm dead.

TDub wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:31 pm I would also offer this....in response to the bridge explosion Putin apparently bombed an apartment complex and a playground today. They are not the same.

https://pictures.reuters.com/CS.aspx?VP ... FQEJXVDN1T

https://www.thedailybeast.com/wounded-p ... le-strikes

ousdahl wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 10:57 am These stories are disgusting.

That’s why I wanna end this war, rather than escalate and perpetuate, and do what we can to hold all war criminals accountable.

Yes, let’s help Ukraine. But, is it possible to help them in more diplomatic and humanitarian capacities, rather than mostly just militant?

KUTradition wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:27 am https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna52926

vlad declares martial law in illegally annexed regions

ousdahl wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 10:57 am These stories are disgusting.

That’s why I wanna end this war, rather than escalate and perpetuate, and do what we can to hold all war criminals accountable.

Yes, let’s help Ukraine. But, is it possible to help them in more diplomatic and humanitarian capacities, rather than mostly just militant?

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 12:17 pm howsabout we play another round of "Nazis in Ukraine that keep showing up in western media despite western media being so determined to downplay nazis in Ukraine."

in today's edition, let's consider this notorious Russophile and Putin-parroting bad guy Kremlin spam bot:

The Commander-in-Chief of the Ukrainian military!



now, this one's unique for several reasons:

- it's not just some rank-and-file Ukrainian Proud Boy soldier, it's the commander in chief
- it was published not from the AP or Reuters or PBS or NYT or one of those other otherwise-respected western media sources, it came directly from an official Ukrainian twitter account
- it actually got a rebuttal this time! Unlike all the other evidence of nazis in Ukraine that either gets hastily dismissed as fake news, or just ignored altogether; this one merits a response from Newsweek, at least...

https://www.newsweek.com/kim-dotcom-ukr ... to-1750457

now, I can buy the "did not feature a swastika, but rather a swirly motif" theory as quickly as you guys will. Newsweek cites other tweeters who blurred the image for context, mentions the guy openly wears the bracelet all the time regardless, and that it's just an "ancient symbol" that was hijacked by the nazis. Oh, ok.

What Newsweek DOESN'T do, is provide any context for why the bracelet covered in innocuous ancient symbols IS worn so frequently by this dood, or what wearing that or any other of the ancient symbols might signify. It doesn't mention whether wearing jewelry is common for soldiers, or whether soldiers can display symbols while in uniform that go beyond standard dress. It doesn't mention much toward the context of WW2 or German nazis, despite the language in the commander-in-chief's caption:

A fierce struggle continues on our soil, the scale of which the world has not seen since the WW2. We have no right to hand over this war to our children. The enemy must be destroyed here and now. And we can do that.

Maybe they're not obligated to, though.

But, I guess the question I'm leading up to is, when we're supposed to believe the whole "nazis in Ukraine" thing is entirely just Russian propaganda, don't you at least kinda wish Ukrainian officials (and NATO pals by proxy) would take great care to eliminate even the suggestion of nazis in Ukraine? Don't you think at some point somebody would say something like, "hey let's make sure our high-ranking commanders aren't wearing bracelets covered in ancient motifs or anything else that might create any confusion here?"

and, finally, I'm tempted to ask whether Merica should take better care in understanding precisely what sorts of characters we're arming in Ukraine before arming them, but I know you guys see that question as nothing more than antagonistic, and I'm trying to avoid that role any more.