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TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 8:01 am seems hydrogen fuel cells are going to rear their head again

toyota/bmw, honda/hyundai, and land rover all planning models for the coming years

Your thoughts? I am starting to be intrigued by alternative fuel vehicles. I don't drive much as it is.

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 12:30 pm and yet our government continues to subsidize the fossil fuel industry to the tune of about $20 billion/year while the companies that comprise that industry get fat on profits

And donate those profits to KU Athletics--conundrum.

We got a call from some of yall tourists down south who are loosing their minds cuz they can’t find anywhere to gas up and get outta town.

Thoughts are that until corporations snd governments change their carbon footprint in real ways.... we can all ride witches broomsticks and it wont make a damn bit of difference.

Its not the average citizen that has made this mess.

TDub wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 12:39 pm Thoughts are that until corporations snd governments change their carbon footprint in real ways.... we can all ride witches broomsticks and it wont make a damn bit of difference.

Its not the average citizen that has made this mess.

I'd be in it for the tax credits and two decades of saved fuel costs.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 12:41 pm

TDub wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 12:39 pm Thoughts are that until corporations snd governments change their carbon footprint in real ways.... we can all ride witches broomsticks and it wont make a damn bit of difference.

Its not the average citizen that has made this mess.

I'd be in it for the tax credits and two decades of saved fuel costs.

Sure, and thats fair. But if were looking to solve the larger problem, guilt trippin the public is the wrong approach in my mind

so let’s guilt trip corporations!

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 12:36 pm

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 8:01 am seems hydrogen fuel cells are going to rear their head again

toyota/bmw, honda/hyundai, and land rover all planning models for the coming years

Your thoughts? I am starting to be intrigued by alternative fuel vehicles. I don't drive much as it is.

i think it’s great

i’ve mentioned this before...electric cars have their own inherent problems with the disposal/recycling of the batteries. they can’t be the ultimate solution

I am seeing that a 2021 Hyundai NEXO is $60,000 sticker. I'd want to hold onto that for a long time.

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 12:59 pm

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 12:36 pm

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 8:01 am seems hydrogen fuel cells are going to rear their head again

toyota/bmw, honda/hyundai, and land rover all planning models for the coming years

Your thoughts? I am starting to be intrigued by alternative fuel vehicles. I don't drive much as it is.

i think it’s great

i’ve mentioned this before...electric cars have their own inherent problems with the disposal/recycling of the batteries. they can’t be the ultimate solution

Not to mention, a lot depends on how electricity is generated where you live/charge.

Not to mention obtaining the lithium thats required to mass produce these batteries


Mayve not hydrogen cells, dont know much about those

I think that for most first-worlders to have real impact on Mother Earth, just consuming much less would help the most, almost regardless of what the stuff requires for fuel or production...

hard not to wonder where we could be if that $20b/year was invested in transit R&D

ChalkRocker wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 1:22 pm I think that for most first-worlders to have real impact on Mother Earth, just consuming much less would help the most, almost regardless of what the stuff requires for fuel or production...

Yea.

We have a real consumption problem. We need to think less consumption and more conservation.

Fun fact: a century ago “conservation” as we know it now wasn’t even a thing, and any use of the term was in reference to “conserving” all available resources for human consumption.

Oh there’s water in that river? Better use it up til it’s drained dry!

ChalkRocker wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 1:22 pm I think that for most first-worlders to have real impact on Mother Earth, just consuming much less would help the most, almost regardless of what the stuff requires for fuel or production...

Yea.

We have a real consumption problem. We need to think less consumption and more conservation.

Fun fact: a century ago “conservation” as we know it now wasn’t even a thing, and any use of the term was in reference to “conserving” all available resources for human consumption.

Oh there’s water in that river? Better use it up til it’s drained dry!

I didn’t leave North America until I was in my mid 20s. I was caught WAY off-guard with there being so little plastic (comparatively) in Europe. Glass everything. No straws. And so on.

such a contrast to much of southeast asia, where plastic is even more prevalent than here

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 7:42 am such a contrast to much of southeast asia, where plastic is even more prevalent than here

Fair enuf, but our faces wouldn't be so red if we hadn't, for years, sent our plastic refuse there, nominally for "recycling"

ChalkRocker wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 5:37 pm

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 7:42 am such a contrast to much of southeast asia, where plastic is even more prevalent than here

Fair enuf, but our faces wouldn't be so red if we hadn't, for years, sent our plastic refuse there, nominally for "recycling"

very true

so...Rivian?

pricey, but seems a better EV truck option than tesla’s monstrosity