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Re: Things That Annoy Me

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:52 am
by jfish26
jhawks99 wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:50 am
TDub wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:24 am while I generally agree, and had a mother who was an English teacher and a grandfather who was an English professor.....proper usage and pronunciation were paramount.

However, there are some incorrectly pronounced words that are sort of like Americana.

For instance, I grew up (grandparents from the other side) saying crick instead of creek. I know it's wrong, but it seems so weird to me to hear it in it's proper form.
My dad pronounced it crick. He also referred to seeing a movie as "Going to the the ATE er to see a show."

And of course there was a big ole R in wash and Washington. ( Mrs. 99 has a slight speech impediment, she pronounces is whoosh. Kinda cute if you ask me.)

Dad also said messourah.

I have trouble pronouncing anemone.
Mrs. Fish pronounces "crayon" as "crown" and I still look at her like she's grown a third arm every time.

Re: Things That Annoy Me

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:52 am
by jhawks99
Cloths. Do you pronounce the th or does it sound like close? I pronounce it close, but I'm probably wrong.

Re: Things That Annoy Me

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:55 am
by pdub
Cloths or clothes?

BUD is from Maine so she pronounces room like 'rum' ( or broom like brum ).
She also says 'wait on line' rather than 'wait in line'.
Finally, camp up here is just second homes/vacation homes, not like an actual camp.

Re: Things That Annoy Me

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:57 am
by jfish26
pdub wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:55 amCloths or clothes?
Assuming "clothes", my pronunciation does have a slightly-perceptible th - CLO-thz.

Re: Things That Annoy Me

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2024 10:14 am
by jhawks99
pdub wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:55 am Cloths or clothes?

BUD is from Maine so she pronounces room like 'rum' ( or broom like brum ).
She also says 'wait on line' rather than 'wait in line'.
Finally, camp up here is just second homes/vacation homes, not like an actual camp.
Yeah, so I can't spell it either. I meant clothes

Re: Things That Annoy Me

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2024 10:16 am
by TDub
jhawks99 wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:50 am
TDub wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:24 am while I generally agree, and had a mother who was an English teacher and a grandfather who was an English professor.....proper usage and pronunciation were paramount.

However, there are some incorrectly pronounced words that are sort of like Americana.

For instance, I grew up (grandparents from the other side) saying crick instead of creek. I know it's wrong, but it seems so weird to me to hear it in it's proper form.
My dad pronounced it crick. He also referred to seeing a movie as "Going to the the ATE er to see a show."

And of course there was a big ole R in wash and Washington. ( Mrs. 99 has a slight speech impediment, she pronounces is whoosh. Kinda cute if you ask me.)

Dad also said messourah.

I have trouble pronouncing anemone.
ha, my grandparents also said Warshington and warshing machine....and messourah.

Re: Things That Annoy Me

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2024 10:17 am
by TDub
jfish26 wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:52 am
jhawks99 wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:50 am
TDub wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:24 am while I generally agree, and had a mother who was an English teacher and a grandfather who was an English professor.....proper usage and pronunciation were paramount.

However, there are some incorrectly pronounced words that are sort of like Americana.

For instance, I grew up (grandparents from the other side) saying crick instead of creek. I know it's wrong, but it seems so weird to me to hear it in it's proper form.
My dad pronounced it crick. He also referred to seeing a movie as "Going to the the ATE er to see a show."

And of course there was a big ole R in wash and Washington. ( Mrs. 99 has a slight speech impediment, she pronounces is whoosh. Kinda cute if you ask me.)

Dad also said messourah.

I have trouble pronouncing anemone.
Mrs. Fish pronounces "crayon" as "crown" and I still look at her like she's grown a third arm every time.
that's not wrong though, that's how I've said it my whole life. Maybe it's a Midwest thing.

Re: Things That Annoy Me

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2024 10:20 am
by KUTradition
jhawks99 wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:50 am I have trouble pronouncing anemone.
and that’s obviously ok. my wife does too (along with a whole bunch of other words as well)

knowing and acknowledging it says to me it’s neither due to laziness or ignorance

the only time i’ve been particularly bothered by that word is when news anchors have botched it

Re: Things That Annoy Me

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2024 10:21 am
by KUTradition
pdub wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:55 am Finally, camp up here is just second homes/vacation homes, not like an actual camp.
that’s weird

so, is there a term for actual camping?

Re: Things That Annoy Me

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2024 10:32 am
by pdub
Yea.
It's camping.
But you don't go camping when you go 'upta camp'.

Going upta camp very likely means you're going to a house not used as a primary residence...though it's possible that your 'camp' ( other property ) doesn't have a house on it and maybe you're actually camping there. Our family has a 'camp' a little under 3 hours away - never would I ever have described a cape-cod 4 BR as a camp.

We are going camping at Sebago Lake in 2 weeks ( real camping, in a tent ).
We are headed to camp the week after that ( not at all camping ).

Almost equally confusing - an Italian sandwich here is any sandwich with cold cuts.
So if I order an Italian, I'm not getting what I'd expect, which is a sandwich with meats like salami, soppressata, pepperoni and provolone...instead you get asked what kind of Italian you want.
( like ordering a Coke in the South - 'sure what kind?' )

I could get a roast beef sandwich with cheddar and it'd be an Italian - I think it just can't be hot and needs the right type of roll ( longer and not a bun or sliced loaf bread ).

Re: Things That Annoy Me

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2024 12:04 pm
by jhawks99
Here it's known as "going up North"

Re: Things That Annoy Me

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2024 2:59 pm
by Back2Lawrence
I loved camping in Colorado. I couldn’t imagine camping in this area most of the year. Icky.

Re: Things That Annoy Me

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2024 3:18 pm
by jhawks99
We used to camp out at Clinton all the time. Rock Bottom I think was the name of the area. It was OK, a good excuse to cook outside and get gushered.

Re: Things That Annoy Me

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2024 4:16 pm
by Shirley
Very interesting, thanks!

Re: Things That Annoy Me

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2024 8:45 am
by pdub
When, in a work environment, someone writes an email that says we need to talk about something without laying out with the thing is, even if it's a brief summary.

Re: Things That Annoy Me

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2024 6:58 am
by jfish26
pdub wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 8:45 am When, in a work environment, someone writes an email that says we need to talk about something without laying out with the thing is, even if it's a brief summary.
Amen.

It means solving the actual problem is going to take at least two calls.

Re: Things That Annoy Me

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2024 7:04 am
by pdub
When often it could have just been solved with an effectively written email.

Re: Things That Annoy Me

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2024 7:49 am
by DeletedUser
When gutter doesn't do 5 questions of the day.

Re: Things That Annoy Me

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2024 7:52 am
by jfish26
pdub wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 7:04 am When often it could have just been solved with an effectively written email.
...which also leaves everyone with a record of what was decided, and why/how. Which saves the NEXT call, three days or weeks or months or years from now, to remind ourselves what we talked about.

Re: Things That Annoy Me

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2024 8:27 am
by pdub
jfish26 wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 7:52 am
pdub wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 7:04 am When often it could have just been solved with an effectively written email.
...which also leaves everyone with a record of what was decided, and why/how. Which saves the NEXT call, three days or weeks or months or years from now, to remind ourselves what we talked about.
YES.