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Re: KC Chiefs v San Fran

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:10 pm
by pdub
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:08 pm I’ll take the younger one by a hair and just bc I straight up don’t like the Chiefs.
FYP

Re: KC Chiefs v San Fran

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:11 pm
by pdub
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Re: KC Chiefs v San Fran

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:12 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
Most Chiefs are fine. Especially Mahomes.

Just really don’t care for my two neighbors, Tyreek and Travis.

Re: KC Chiefs v San Fran

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:12 pm
by Deleted User 141
Can you hear yelling between the walls from Tyreek’s place?

Re: KC Chiefs v San Fran

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:14 pm
by NewtonHawk11
pdub wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:00 pm Mahomes >>> Kelce > Kittle > Bosa > Hill > Sherman
I agree with this. And I'm trying to think unbiasedly. Chiefs 2 best players are better than 49ers best player.

Kelce I think is better than Kittle because Kelce just works over any guy guarding him. Safety on him, he'll bully him on his route and be more physical, and he runs past any LB with ease. Blocking is also very underrated for him. Not on Kittle's level, but not a slouch by any means either.

Kittle does a lot of his work because of what he's able to do in the scheme of the 49ers offense. Yeah, he had the great catch and run against NO, best play of the year. But he is often WIDE OPEN because of the scheme and numbers game Shanahan plays.

Kelce just beats his guys no matter the play or the defensive scheme.

Re: KC Chiefs v San Fran

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:14 pm
by Sparko
It is simply great to see them back as a fan. Kelce made one of the great catches in Chiefs’ history against the 49ers in 2018. One handed with his momentum going the other way OOB. Kittle had a nice game exploiting Parker and others in the middle zone.

Re: KC Chiefs v San Fran

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:15 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
But is Kittle better than Bosa? More likable, that’s for sure.

Re: KC Chiefs v San Fran

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:16 pm
by Deleted User 141
I really like Mahomes. I appreciate Kelce’s skill. I’ve kinda got a Jeep:Kobe view of Hill.

And I’m absolutely rooting for Reid to get a title

Re: KC Chiefs v San Fran

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:21 pm
by NewtonHawk11
I think Kittle is better than Bosa. Bosa is damn good, but also just 9 sacks for the year.

Frank Clark who was clearly injured and missed 2 games, has 8 on the year.

He hasn't been as dominate as many think. He's not much different than Joey Bosa.

Re: KC Chiefs v San Fran

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:22 pm
by Sparko
Truth is, the Chiefs and 49ers are eerily similar. But Mahomes is that extra intangible.

Re: KC Chiefs v San Fran

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:23 pm
by Deleted User 141
Damn it Sparko, no. I don’t like agreeing completely with any of your statements. :)

Re: KC Chiefs v San Fran

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:25 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:21 pm I think Kittle is better than Bosa. Bosa is damn good, but also just 9 sacks for the year.

Frank Clark who was clearly injured and missed 2 games, has 8 on the year.

He hasn't been as dominate as many think. He's not much different than Joey Bosa.
Yeah he’s turned it up for the playoffs, which can’t be a bad thing. But, he seems to have several peers.

Kittle only has Kelce. Kittle blocks like a tackle and runs routes like a receiver. Kelce wins every matchup and is uncoverable. So, it’s kinda pick your poison with the 2.

Re: KC Chiefs v San Fran

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:29 pm
by pdub
Sparko wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:22 pm Truth is, the Chiefs and 49ers are eerily similar. But Mahomes is that extra intangible.
Wut?
No.

Pretty different offenses. Different defenses - San Fran runs out of a base cover 3, Chiefs a basic 4-3 and Spags tends to send more than 4 guys.
Chiefs get giant chunk plays and can score fast. San Fran builds from the run.

Re: KC Chiefs v San Fran

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:31 pm
by NewtonHawk11
Sparko wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:22 pm Truth is, the Chiefs and 49ers are eerily similar. But Mahomes is that extra intangible.
And I think for that reason, the Chiefs have the edge. He's the factor that other teams don't have.

If they're that similar at every place other than QB, and the QB advantage is pretty massive, the Chiefs should have the edge.

Listened to Yahoo NFL podcast this morning. They brought up a good point. Seconds 1-3, Jimmy G and Mahomes aren't that different. It's seconds 4+ that differentiate Mahomes from anyone else.

Re: KC Chiefs v San Fran

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:42 pm
by pdub
49ers defense is quite a bit better than the Chiefs though.
One of the best in the league.
Chris Jones and Frank Clark better earn their money.

Re: KC Chiefs v San Fran

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:48 pm
by NewtonHawk11
pdub wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:42 pm 49ers defense is quite a bit better than the Chiefs though.
One of the best in the league.
Chris Jones and Frank Clark better earn their money.
Their secondary is SLOWWWWWWWWWWWWW

Hill, Watkins and Hardman should run by them.

It all depends on the OL vs DL. San Fran gets a lot of pressure while rushing just 4. If the OL can prevent that, the offense should have a big day.

Re: KC Chiefs v San Fran

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 2:01 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
Here’s a helpful breakdown of the game.


Re: KC Chiefs v San Fran

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 2:09 pm
by Deleted User 141
They both wear red, which matches his hats, so he’s obviously on the fence.

Re: KC Chiefs v San Fran

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 2:11 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
If he knew which cities were being represented, he’d know who he’d root for.

Re: KC Chiefs v San Fran

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 2:13 pm
by pdub
Not true:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/286 ... r-bowl-liv

One of the better rookies of the year in Thornhill is out for us.