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how can you even tell if a cat is depressed?

they’re moody af regardless
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Thats gotta be more made up onion news or something. Nobody is treating cats for depression thats ridiculous. Cats are best left to the barn anyway. Mice arent gonna hunt themselves.
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Pretty sure a mouse would kick the crap outta my daughter's cat.
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Well the kids are getting an english setter puppy right around Christmas time. Expected to be born around the end of October. Just put the deposit down. Wife is very nervous LOL.
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very cool! English Setter...dont see many of those around. I see more Irish Setters. Anyway, kids will love it and it will be good for them. Setters typically need a lot of exercise and interaction....have fun!
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BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Sep 21, 2021 8:43 am Well the kids are getting an english setter puppy right around Christmas time. Expected to be born around the end of October. Just put the deposit down. Wife is very nervous LOL.
I'm 100% NOT judging by asking this of you and/or anyone else.
I live in a building with probably close to what seems like 100 dogs living in it.
I see dogs of all shapes, sizes, ages, etc.
I see some dogs that appear to be "designer" dogs that their owners probably paid 1000s of dollars for and I see some dogs that appear to be "mutts" that their owners probably paid $100 to adopt from a shelter.
My question is, if I am living in an apartment, why the heck do I need a multi thousand dollar dog (with a shit attitude?) when I can get a 100 dollar dog that provides the same if not more love and comfort and companionship?
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why do some people need a Lexus or a Range Rover when they only drive it to get groceries once a week? A beater car from impound auction would do the same job...


on a more serious note tho.

all dogs costs thousands of dollars over their lifetime. Some people have a specific idea of what they want for their dog...or have had good experiences with particular dogs. there is also the issue of history. When you get a pup you know what's up with that dog...what his life has been and how he's been raised and what his fear triggers are etc. When you get a shelter dog those are unknowns....which can create issues...I would think particularly so in an apartment.

I'm not against Shelter dogs by any means just providing some of my thoughts on it.
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designer dogs are dumb tho....I'm with ya there
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TDub wrote: Tue Sep 21, 2021 9:02 am why do some people need a Lexus or a Range Rover when they only drive it to get groceries once a week? A beater car from impound auction would do the same job...


on a more serious note tho.

all dogs costs thousands of dollars over their lifetime. Some people have a specific idea of what they want for their dog...or have had good experiences with particular dogs. there is also the issue of history. When you get a pup you know what's up with that dog...what his life has been and how he's been raised and what his fear triggers are etc. When you get a shelter dog those are unknowns....which can create issues...I would think particularly so in an apartment.

I'm not against Shelter dogs by any means just providing some of my thoughts on it.
Thanks for your thoughts!
My biggest concern is how my dog would interact with other dogs in the building AND how it would deal with be forced to live in a one bedroom apartment where the only time/s it would be outside are after a 50 floor elevator ride a couple times a day. I just don't feel that's MY giving a dog the best life if can/could have.
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I would also agree with that
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NotGutterGutter wrote: Tue Sep 21, 2021 8:55 am
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Sep 21, 2021 8:43 am Well the kids are getting an english setter puppy right around Christmas time. Expected to be born around the end of October. Just put the deposit down. Wife is very nervous LOL.
I'm 100% NOT judging by asking this of you and/or anyone else.
I live in a building with probably close to what seems like 100 dogs living in it.
I see dogs of all shapes, sizes, ages, etc.
I see some dogs that appear to be "designer" dogs that their owners probably paid 1000s of dollars for and I see some dogs that appear to be "mutts" that their owners probably paid $100 to adopt from a shelter.
My question is, if I am living in an apartment, why the heck do I need a multi thousand dollar dog (with a shit attitude?) when I can get a 100 dollar dog that provides the same if not more love and comfort and companionship?
If i was living in an apartment i would not have a dog. Those dogs have to be bored out of their minds.

Some designer dogs are cool looking. But 5-10k+ for a dog is a bit much unless they have a purpose other than just a companion animal.
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TDub wrote: Tue Sep 21, 2021 9:02 am why do some people need a Lexus or a Range Rover when they only drive it to get groceries once a week? A beater car from impound auction would do the same job...


on a more serious note tho.

all dogs costs thousands of dollars over their lifetime. Some people have a specific idea of what they want for their dog...or have had good experiences with particular dogs. there is also the issue of history. When you get a pup you know what's up with that dog...what his life has been and how he's been raised and what his fear triggers are etc. When you get a shelter dog those are unknowns....which can create issues...I would think particularly so in an apartment.

I'm not against Shelter dogs by any means just providing some of my thoughts on it.
If i didn't have kids a shelter dog would have been my route. I watched for months with little luck on anything that looked appealing.

The breeder we are getting ours from is a vet married to a vet. They breed border collies, miniature American shepherds, and an occasional english setter liter. They have multiple young children so the puppies are socialized with kids and other dogs from birth which was important to me.
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TDub wrote: Tue Sep 21, 2021 9:03 am designer dogs are dumb tho....I'm with ya there
i’d argue that any pure breed is a “designer” dog
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BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Sep 21, 2021 9:18 am
TDub wrote: Tue Sep 21, 2021 9:02 am why do some people need a Lexus or a Range Rover when they only drive it to get groceries once a week? A beater car from impound auction would do the same job...


on a more serious note tho.

all dogs costs thousands of dollars over their lifetime. Some people have a specific idea of what they want for their dog...or have had good experiences with particular dogs. there is also the issue of history. When you get a pup you know what's up with that dog...what his life has been and how he's been raised and what his fear triggers are etc. When you get a shelter dog those are unknowns....which can create issues...I would think particularly so in an apartment.

I'm not against Shelter dogs by any means just providing some of my thoughts on it.
If i didn't have kids a shelter dog would have been my route. I watched for months with little luck on anything that looked appealing.

The breeder we are getting ours from is a vet married to a vet. They breed border collies, miniature American shepherds, and an occasional english setter liter. They have multiple young children so the puppies are socialized with kids and other dogs from birth which was important to me.
Do you have a fenced in back yard? That was one of our best investments once we bought a dog. Now they can be out back unattended and we don't have to worry about them running off into traffic.
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twocoach wrote: Tue Sep 21, 2021 10:04 am
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Sep 21, 2021 9:18 am
TDub wrote: Tue Sep 21, 2021 9:02 am why do some people need a Lexus or a Range Rover when they only drive it to get groceries once a week? A beater car from impound auction would do the same job...


on a more serious note tho.

all dogs costs thousands of dollars over their lifetime. Some people have a specific idea of what they want for their dog...or have had good experiences with particular dogs. there is also the issue of history. When you get a pup you know what's up with that dog...what his life has been and how he's been raised and what his fear triggers are etc. When you get a shelter dog those are unknowns....which can create issues...I would think particularly so in an apartment.

I'm not against Shelter dogs by any means just providing some of my thoughts on it.
If i didn't have kids a shelter dog would have been my route. I watched for months with little luck on anything that looked appealing.

The breeder we are getting ours from is a vet married to a vet. They breed border collies, miniature American shepherds, and an occasional english setter liter. They have multiple young children so the puppies are socialized with kids and other dogs from birth which was important to me.
Do you have a fenced in back yard? That was one of our best investments once we bought a dog. Now they can be out back unattended and we don't have to worry about them running off into traffic.
Partially fenced.

With my previous english setter we were able to teach her what was her yard and she could go out and wouldn't leave our yard. My experience with hunting dogs is that they are pretty good off the leash because that comes natural out in the field....but each dog is different so we will see how this one does once it is born and we get it home....if i can't get it trained we will bite the bullet on a fence.
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I wouldn't even consider a dog without a fenced yard.

now...when I'm outside the gates are always open and they can go with me to the back or wherever and they pretty much stay right next to me. But when I'm not around gates are shut....Also necessary for younger dogs that sre learning their boundaries of free run
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We are fenced on 2 sides already so probably might as well get it fully fenced regardless.
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many people who breed multiple breeds fall into the category of puppy mills

not saying that’s necessarily the case, but it would sure raise red flags for me

and vets are no different than other doctors...there are good and bad, ethical and unethical
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BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Sep 21, 2021 10:11 am We are fenced on 2 sides already so probably might as well get it fully fenced regardless.
You'll be happy you did. You don't want to have to take your dog outside every time it needs to go outside.
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