Oklahoma Official Gamethread

[LosCondorAzule]

More zone defense would help save the legs and free throwing late. I slipped that in the suddestion box years ago and Bill never read the note.

Please Keep slipping, sending, emailing, phoning that note..

[ArgentineHawk]

Harris looks like a real mistake waiting to happen late in games. Really lucky to survive that turnover.

Seems like a really good guy, but I do agree, he is a mistake ready to happen. I know Self trusts him and all, but IMO, Yes or Bobby give us a better chance moving forward, especially when you look at the bigger picture.

[InfiniteJ]

OU should have went for the win on that last possession.

[Sparko]

Harris panics. Not a good look for a PG.

[Sparko]

OU should have went for the win on that last possession.

We had a floor foul to give. I wondered if we would remember to deny the ball.

[InfiniteJ]

Harris looks like a real mistake waiting to happen late in games. Really lucky to survive that turnover.

Seems like a really good guy, but I do agree, he is a mistake ready to happen. I know Self trusts him and all, but IMO, Yes or Bobby give us a better chance moving forward, especially when you look at the bigger picture.

The Harris haters are hilarious to me.

Bobby lost too much time with injuries/COVID to contribute meaningful minutes, Yesufu is too mistake-prone.

[holidaysmore]

This team already struggles with rebounding so I’m not sure going to a zone look is going to help that.

These guys are 19-22 yr olds in the prime of their lives. Legs have nothing to do with messing FTs. That is all focus and concentration.

[ChalkRocker]

And form

[ArgentineHawk]

OU should have went for the win on that last possession.

I think they wanted to, but if you look at the replay, Ouch was on Groves and he may have stolen the pass or made the shot a little tougher on him.

[InfiniteJ]

The FT issues are almost a 100% mental toughness issue...especially the misses towards the end of games.

[ArgentineHawk]

Harris looks like a real mistake waiting to happen late in games. Really lucky to survive that turnover.

Seems like a really good guy, but I do agree, he is a mistake ready to happen. I know Self trusts him and all, but IMO, Yes or Bobby give us a better chance moving forward, especially when you look at the bigger picture.

The Harris haters are hilarious to me.

Bobby lost too much time with injuries/COVID to contribute meaningful minutes, Yesufu is too mistake-prone.

It’s not hating on Harris, but being honest. At Kansas we’re used to big time playmakers at the pg position (Donte, Collins, Mason, TT…ext) and he’s just not one of those guys if you’re honest with yourself.

He is what he is. He’ll look really good against the mid majors we play before the conference season starts. And once it does start, he is who he is.

And also, if we’re using your logic, Clemence has also been out for a while now and we can all agree, his play today definitely helped win us this game.

[ramjet]

The FT issues are almost a 100% mental toughness issue...especially the misses towards the end of games.

absofuckinglutely

[Mjl]

The guy leading our team ( and maybe the league?) in assist to turnover ratio is a mistake ready to happen. Great take.

[KUTradition]

Seems like a really good guy, but I do agree, he is a mistake ready to happen. I know Self trusts him and all, but IMO, Yes or Bobby give us a better chance moving forward, especially when you look at the bigger picture.

The Harris haters are hilarious to me.

Bobby lost too much time with injuries/COVID to contribute meaningful minutes, Yesufu is too mistake-prone.

It’s not hating on Harris, but being honest. At Kansas we’re used to big time playmakers at the pg position (Donte, Collins, Mason, TT…ext) and he’s just not one of those guys if you’re honest with yourself.

He is what he is. He’ll look really good against the mid majors we play before the conference season starts. And once it does start, he is who he is.

And also, if we’re using your logic, Clemence has also been out for a while now and we can all agree, his play today definitely helped win us this game.

i don’t think it’s fair to compare what is being asked of a guard vs a big in those situations (Bobby vs. Zach)

[Deleted User 863]

The guy leading our team ( and maybe the league?) in assist to turnover ratio is a mistake ready to happen. Great take.

Unbelievable.

People are so bad at this.

[Sparko]

The guy leading our team ( and maybe the league?) in assist to turnover ratio is a mistake ready to happen. Great take.

He made key errors the last two. Barely survived today. His size is a real problem against inbounds pressure. He is a role player playing against limited defense with Och drawing doubles. Late in the game he suddenly becomes a weakness.

[Sparko]

On the legs. See 2003 championship before the Self era. Self doesn't sub much for leaders, and they went from perfect at the line to about 2-8 later. This team shoots well from the line but does seem to whiff late. Concentration is a factor. Muscle memory is disturbed by fatigue though.

[Mjl]

We've had issues for years in those late game inbounds scenarios. The only difference here is the scapegoat is the one who got the ball in the corner this time.

He has made mistakes at the end of the last two games. It would be nice if he didn't have to play the entire second half, and be the primary ball handler that whole time, but he can't get a rest, because he's the only one that is NOT a "mistake waiting to happen".

[Sparko]

We've had issues for years in those late game inbounds scenarios. The only difference here is the scapegoat is the one who got the ball in the corner this time.

He has made mistakes at the end of the last two games. It would be nice if he didn't have to play the entire second half, and be the primary ball handler that whole time, but he can't get a rest, because he's the only one that is NOT a "mistake waiting to happen".

Watching him in late game situations, he should sit. Too weak as a shooter. A real liability on some switches the whole game defensively.

[Mjl]

Who would you rather have in?

On the defensive side I agree, he's had some bad games, like today.