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randylahey wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 1:40 am If everyone got fired every time they fucked a coworker, there wouldn't be a single company with enough employees left to function

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:03 amUnless it is specifically stated in his contract that he can't "date" a Celtics employee, then I have to figure there is no legal way he can get fired, let alone suspended for a year if it was consensual.

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:03 am You and I know that's not really true but I get your point.

Unless it is specifically stated in his contract that he can't "date" a Celtics employee, then I have to figure there is no legal way he can get fired, let alone suspended for a year if it was consensual.
It seems they do have a "no dating" policy - obviously I don't know for sure.
I feel "no dating" policies are asinine - even though I do fully understand some of the reasons they exist.

Seems a big problem is allegedly she claims he made "unwanted comments toward her." Gee, was that before, during, or after their "consensual" relationship?

"Some members of the Celtics organization first became aware of the relationship in July, sources said. At that time, team leadership was led to believe by both parties that the relationship was consensual. But sources said that the woman recently accused Udoka of making unwanted comments toward her - leading the team to launch a set of internal interviews.

https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/bos ... ents-espn/

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:42 am

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:03 am You and I know that's not really true but I get your point.

Unless it is specifically stated in his contract that he can't "date" a Celtics employee, then I have to figure there is no legal way he can get fired, let alone suspended for a year if it was consensual.
It seems they do have a "no dating" policy - obviously I don't know for sure.
I feel "no dating" policies are asinine - even though I do fully understand some of the reasons they exist.

Seems a big problem is allegedly she claims he made "unwanted comments toward her." Gee, was that before, during, or after their "consensual" relationship?

"Some members of the Celtics organization first became aware of the relationship in July, sources said. At that time, team leadership was led to believe by both parties that the relationship was consensual. But sources said that the woman recently accused Udoka of making unwanted comments toward her - leading the team to launch a set of internal interviews.

https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/bos ... ents-espn/

We have a policy that you cannot date someone in your direct report line (managers cannot date employees, employees cannot date managers, etc...) but allow people who aren't in a manager-employee position to date. It would be silly to have a policy stating that no one who works for the Boston Celtics can date anyone else who works for the Boston Celtics in any capacity. There's just too many people in an organization like that for that to be realistic.

UnholyLivingDead wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 10:12 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:42 am

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:03 am You and I know that's not really true but I get your point.

Unless it is specifically stated in his contract that he can't "date" a Celtics employee, then I have to figure there is no legal way he can get fired, let alone suspended for a year if it was consensual.
It seems they do have a "no dating" policy - obviously I don't know for sure.
I feel "no dating" policies are asinine - even though I do fully understand some of the reasons they exist.

Seems a big problem is allegedly she claims he made "unwanted comments toward her." Gee, was that before, during, or after their "consensual" relationship?

"Some members of the Celtics organization first became aware of the relationship in July, sources said. At that time, team leadership was led to believe by both parties that the relationship was consensual. But sources said that the woman recently accused Udoka of making unwanted comments toward her - leading the team to launch a set of internal interviews.

https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/bos ... ents-espn/

We have a policy that you cannot date someone in your direct report line (managers cannot date employees, employees cannot date managers, etc...) but allow people who aren't in a manager-employee position to date. It would be silly to have a policy stating that no one who works for the Boston Celtics can date anyone else who works for the Boston Celtics in any capacity. There's just too many people in an organization like that for that to be realistic.

I think it's pretty clear that it's the power dynamic that is the issue here, right?

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 10:59 am

UnholyLivingDead wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 10:12 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:42 am

We have a policy that you cannot date someone in your direct report line (managers cannot date employees, employees cannot date managers, etc...) but allow people who aren't in a manager-employee position to date. It would be silly to have a policy stating that no one who works for the Boston Celtics can date anyone else who works for the Boston Celtics in any capacity. There's just too many people in an organization like that for that to be realistic.

I think it's pretty clear that it's the power dynamic that is the issue here, right?

It seems the most sensible explanation. These things are rarely super complicated.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:37 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 1:40 am If everyone got fired every time they fucked a coworker, there wouldn't be a single company with enough employees left to function

I’m going to regret engaging with a middle of the night randy post, but this comes off as just so hilariously ignorant.

1. Like gutter said, not even remotely true. I’d wager a great majority of workers go to their jobs to make money and then go home to their lives they actually care about.

2. You don’t think people get fired for having sex with other employees??? This is an at-will employment country with millions of very small to small businesses with people pretty sensitive to that kind of stuff. Not to mention the millions of companies that have no romantic relationship policies that they enforce.

I am completely indifferent to the Boston Celtics—I would think you would have to be pretty heavily invested to give a single shit as to how they run their company.

Cascadia wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:09 pm Glad to randy is good and drunk early on a Friday.