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Re: 22-23 NCAA Basketball Season
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2022 7:30 am
by pdub
Id take Few Izzo and Beard.
Cal doesn’t work at KU.
Drew doesn’t work anywhere.
Re: 22-23 NCAA Basketball Season
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2022 8:07 am
by Deleted User 863
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:37 am
I would answer the question something like:
1. Self.
Humongous gap.
2. Calipari
3. Sampson
4. Beard
5. Oats
6. Izzo
7. Musselman
8. Holloway
9. Neptune
10. Norm Roberts, if we're counting active assistants
Having Beard (and Oats) ahead of Izzo and Bennett (and Drew
, although mostly because of the last 3-4 seasons of Baylor being legit good) is insanity to me.
Since coaching against the big boys (5 seasons at TT and 1 at UT) he's had 10+ losses in all but 1 of those seasons. Tied for 1st in conference only 1 time. And made 1 FF, as a 3 seed.
Re: 22-23 NCAA Basketball Season
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2022 8:09 am
by Deleted User 863
pdub wrote: ↑Sat Nov 19, 2022 7:30 am
Id take Few Izzo and Beard.
Cal doesn’t work at KU.
Drew doesn’t work anywhere.
I think Cal fits better at KU than Few. Which I guess means neither would fit well?
Re: 22-23 NCAA Basketball Season
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2022 8:17 am
by pdub
Cal makes things about him.
He’s an entertainer. He’s loud. He loves the spotlight.
There’s no modesty, and a lot of excuses. A lot of talk.
I’d rather probably 20 other coaches before Cal.
Few is not that.
Few wouldn’t come to Kansas though-he loves the PNW too much.
Re: 22-23 NCAA Basketball Season
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2022 8:58 am
by Deleted User 863
I have always thought Few seemed like a d-bag.
I also don't think Cal makes things "about him" nearly as much as the people who dislike him think. He's definitely loud. He's definitely an entertainer. But I also think the vast majority of his former players seem to love him, and he seems to genuinely care for his players (most of the time).
Re: 22-23 NCAA Basketball Season
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2022 9:14 am
by CrimsonNBlue
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Sat Nov 19, 2022 8:07 am
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:37 am
I would answer the question something like:
1. Self.
Humongous gap.
2. Calipari
3. Sampson
4. Beard
5. Oats
6. Izzo
7. Musselman
8. Holloway
9. Neptune
10. Norm Roberts, if we're counting active assistants
Having Beard (and Oats) ahead of Izzo and Bennett (and Drew
, although mostly because of the last 3-4 seasons of Baylor being legit good) is insanity to me.
Since coaching against the big boys (5 seasons at TT and 1 at UT) he's had 10+ losses in all but 1 of those seasons. Tied for 1st in conference only 1 time. And made 1 FF, as a 3 seed.
The question is almost entirely subjective, so the only insane take would be to have Scott Drew listed because he objectively sucks.
To run KU hoops from today and into the future, age becomes a big thing for me. At 67, I’ll take Sampson who’s done more lately.
Izzo also has 62 losses in those 6 seasons at an established basketball school. Beard has 67 losses during a rebuild and another new job.
Re: 22-23 NCAA Basketball Season
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2022 9:21 am
by Deleted User 863
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Sat Nov 19, 2022 9:14 am
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Sat Nov 19, 2022 8:07 am
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:37 am
I would answer the question something like:
1. Self.
Humongous gap.
2. Calipari
3. Sampson
4. Beard
5. Oats
6. Izzo
7. Musselman
8. Holloway
9. Neptune
10. Norm Roberts, if we're counting active assistants
Having Beard (and Oats) ahead of Izzo and Bennett (and Drew
, although mostly because of the last 3-4 seasons of Baylor being legit good) is insanity to me.
Since coaching against the big boys (5 seasons at TT and 1 at UT) he's had 10+ losses in all but 1 of those seasons. Tied for 1st in conference only 1 time. And made 1 FF, as a 3 seed.
The question is almost entirely subjective, so the only insane take would be to have Scott Drew listed because he objectively sucks.
To run KU hoops from today and into the future, age becomes a big thing for me. At 67, I’ll take Sampson who’s done more lately.
Izzo also has 62 losses in those 6 seasons at an established basketball school. Beard has 67 losses during a rebuild and another new job.
If we are talking "coach to run KU now and into the future" then my list is entirely different. I thought that was your top 10 active coaches list.
Re: 22-23 NCAA Basketball Season
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2022 9:23 am
by Deleted User 863
To run KU my list is probably:
Self
(big gap)
Norm Roberts
Jacque Vaughn
Jeremy Case
But I am in the minority in liking Vaughn and Case as candidates to be KUs next HC.
Re: 22-23 NCAA Basketball Season
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2022 5:51 pm
by pdub
I like Vaughn too.
And Aaron Miles.
Re: 22-23 NCAA Basketball Season
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 12:00 pm
by Mjl
Two top ten match-ups today. Wife and kids gone for the weekend. I haven't gotten to spend 4 hours in a day watching non-ncaa-tournament basketball for more than a decade. I'm excited.
Re: 22-23 NCAA Basketball Season
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 6:46 pm
by randylahey
Mjl wrote: ↑Sun Nov 20, 2022 12:00 pm
Two top ten match-ups today. Wife and kids gone for the weekend. I haven't gotten to spend 4 hours in a day watching non-ncaa-tournament basketball for more than a decade. I'm excited.
Baylor got a nice win against a good UCLA team.
hard to root for either kentucky or gonzaga
Re: 22-23 NCAA Basketball Season
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 8:32 pm
by Overlander
No fucking way KU would ever taint the program with Cal.
Settle down Illannoy, your man crush on Cal has been well documented
Re: 22-23 NCAA Basketball Season
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 8:35 pm
by Deleted User 863
Overlander wrote: ↑Sun Nov 20, 2022 8:32 pm
No fucking way KU would ever taint the program with Cal.
Again?
Re: 22-23 NCAA Basketball Season
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 8:45 pm
by Overlander
He wasn’t Cal back then
Re: 22-23 NCAA Basketball Season
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 9:15 pm
by Deleted User 863
Oh, ok. Got it.
Re: 22-23 NCAA Basketball Season
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 9:35 pm
by TDub
randylahey wrote: ↑Sun Nov 20, 2022 6:46 pm
Mjl wrote: ↑Sun Nov 20, 2022 12:00 pm
Two top ten match-ups today. Wife and kids gone for the weekend. I haven't gotten to spend 4 hours in a day watching non-ncaa-tournament basketball for more than a decade. I'm excited.
Baylor got a nice win against a good UCLA team.
hard to root for either kentucky or gonzaga
I cant root for Gonzaga....so instead I will root against UK.
Re: 22-23 NCAA Basketball Season
Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:02 am
by jhawks99
The folks I interviewed at the Lexington mall... errr Rupp aren't too happy with Cal at the moment.
Re: 22-23 NCAA Basketball Season
Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:10 am
by CrimsonNBlue
jhawks99 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:02 am
The folks I interviewed at the Lexington mall... errr Rupp aren't too happy with Cal at the moment.
This is fantastic. Shut the board down for the day, 99 won it.
Re: 22-23 NCAA Basketball Season
Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:27 am
by NewtonHawk11
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Sat Nov 19, 2022 9:23 am
To run KU my list is probably:
Self
(big gap)
Norm Roberts
Jacque Vaughn
Jeremy Case
But I am in the minority in liking Vaughn and Case as candidates to be KUs next HC.
We're doing this again?
Re: 22-23 NCAA Basketball Season
Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:58 am
by Deleted User 863
NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:27 am
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Sat Nov 19, 2022 9:23 am
To run KU my list is probably:
Self
(big gap)
Norm Roberts
Jacque Vaughn
Jeremy Case
But I am in the minority in liking Vaughn and Case as candidates to be KUs next HC.
We're doing this again?
I guess so.
I mean, we could go talk politics, I suppose?
, although mostly because of the last 3-4 seasons of Baylor being legit good) is insanity to me.