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Re: 2024

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 12:48 am
by zsn
Overlander wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:36 pm
KUTradition wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 3:46 pm the dumb never ends

lol
It’s “literally” all he has
Who’s going to tell the ignorami that once you mine elements like lithium (which is not rare) and put them in a battery it’s really not that difficult to recover the elements when they are not as functional any longer?

Unlike carbon-based fuels, nothing happens to the lithium at the end of its useful life. Much like an aluminum can, it’s easier and more efficient to recycle/recover the elements (some elements like lithium haven’t established a market due to scale). For fossil fuels though, they’re gone and generally leave a trail of destruction behind.

Re: 2024

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:43 am
by randylahey
zsn wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 12:48 am
Overlander wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:36 pm
KUTradition wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 3:46 pm the dumb never ends

lol
It’s “literally” all he has
Who’s going to tell the ignorami that once you mine elements like lithium (which is not rare) and put them in a battery it’s really not that difficult to recover the elements when they are not as functional any longer?

Unlike carbon-based fuels, nothing happens to the lithium at the end of its useful life. Much like an aluminum can, it’s easier and more efficient to recycle/recover the elements (some elements like lithium haven’t established a market due to scale). For fossil fuels though, they’re gone and generally leave a trail of destruction behind.
Now much fossil feul usage will it take to operate the machinery to mine the elements? How much damage will that do to the environment? Are there enough of these RARE elements to produce enough batteries to power everything globally? They are used to not just in vehicles but power tools and all sorts of various technologies. And what will we use to continually recharge all these batteries? The electric grid? The grid gets the majority of its power from fossil feuls

Re: 2024

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:46 am
by randylahey
I am 100 percent interested in continuing to develop clean renewable energies. But right now it's just not that viable to transition. It also has a very big carbon footprint. There is not as easy shortcut yet

Re: 2024

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:49 am
by randylahey
Do you guys know much about wind energy? How's those big wind turbines actually require fossil fuels to run? Wind energy is supposed to be a clean energy too. But the turbines are ineffecient, they need additional power from the fossil feul powered electric grid to continue spinning to harness wind energy. And many governments subsidize it. Which is what's leading to increasing energy bills. Using the grid to power wind turbines to harness "clean energy"

Re: 2024

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:41 am
by Shirley

Re: 2024

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 9:22 am
by zsn
randylahey wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:49 am Do you guys know much about wind energy? How's those big wind turbines actually require fossil fuels to run? Wind energy is supposed to be a clean energy too. But the turbines are ineffecient, they need additional power from the fossil feul powered electric grid to continue spinning to harness wind energy. And many governments subsidize it. Which is what's leading to increasing energy bills. Using the grid to power wind turbines to harness "clean energy"
What is this, the Alberto Contador e-bike conspiracy? Have you ever met a conspiracy theory you don’t subscribe to?

The increasing energy bills (for the most part) is because the regulators are bought and paid for by the utilities that they are supposed to regulate. At least in California, they allowed PG&E to pass on their liability for their negligence to consumers. They also allowed the utilities to pay less to customers who generate electricity (eg. Rooftop solar).

Re: 2024

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 9:26 am
by jfish26
Ladies and gentlemen, the presumptive R nominee.

https://x.com/ronfilipkowski/status/170 ... PzNG4aOfKQ
Montage of 33 clips of the stupidest, most vile, insane, weirdest, addled dementia-ridden, psychotic statements made by Trump over the past two weeks.
Both candidates are old and make verbal gaffes.

One does not believe the Constitution and the laws that flow from it apply to him, lies like he breathes, giddily appeals to his supporters’ most racist/sexist/violent instincts and does not, generally, seem to understand the notion of water.

Re: 2024

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 11:37 am
by randylahey
zsn wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 9:22 am
randylahey wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:49 am Do you guys know much about wind energy? How's those big wind turbines actually require fossil fuels to run? Wind energy is supposed to be a clean energy too. But the turbines are ineffecient, they need additional power from the fossil feul powered electric grid to continue spinning to harness wind energy. And many governments subsidize it. Which is what's leading to increasing energy bills. Using the grid to power wind turbines to harness "clean energy"
What is this, the Alberto Contador e-bike conspiracy? Have you ever met a conspiracy theory you don’t subscribe to?

The increasing energy bills (for the most part) is because the regulators are bought and paid for by the utilities that they are supposed to regulate. At least in California, they allowed PG&E to pass on their liability for their negligence to consumers. They also allowed the utilities to pay less to customers who generate electricity (eg. Rooftop solar).
Look into it. Reallocation of already existing energy to create less efficient subsidized energy is a waste of resources and factors into increasing energy costs

https://twitter.com/ryangerritsen/statu ... 9bIlw&s=19

Re: 2024

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 12:53 pm
by Sparko
Randy, you ignore everything and keep posting. In fact, you are the one trying to turn lead into gold.

Re: 2024

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:27 pm
by Shirley
This decades-old "subsidized energy" propaganda bullshit that republicans keep repeating in service to their carbon-based energy benefactors to attack alternative energy programs because they know their base, easily fooled imbeciles like Randy, will believe it, gets so old.

The government subsidizes all sorts of different types of co.s, especially, but not limited to, when the co.s are just starting out, and involve new ideas and technologies, or vital public services.

While many industries receive government subsidies, three of the biggest beneficiaries are energy, agriculture, and transportation.

The government gives grants to companies developing either renewable or nonrenewable energy sources, issues bonds for certain power facilities it owns and also imposes tariffs on certain biofuels.

Agriculture is subsidized through cash payments and essentially non-repayable loans to farmers; also, the USDA makes insurance against the risk of inclement weather and pests available at affordable rates.

Transportation companies are given cash payments by the government, funding for infrastructure building, such as airport and railway construction, and tax incentives...


For "literally" decades, there was virtually no step in the generation of commercial nuclear power, from procurement of the rights to mine the uranium, to the procurement of the land to build the power plant, to the construction of the power plant, to the operation of the power plant, to the disposal of the waste from the generation of the power, that wasn't subsidized or the liability wasn't mitigated by the federal government. None.

According to this summary by the GAO, General Accounting Office, as of 1979, federal subsidies to the nuclear power industry "cost the taxpayer an estimated $12.1 billion since 1950".

The full cost of nuclear-generated electricity includes the electric utilities' costs, which are passed on to the consumer, and the costs borne by the federal government, which would generally be financed through tax revenues. As of January 31, 1979, 70 nuclear power plants were licensed to operate in the United States. These plants, having a total capacity of about 50,000 megawatts, provided about 13 percent of the nation's electricity. An additional 126 power plants are either under construction or planned. The large financial risks involved with developing commercial nuclear power required federal participation and cooperation with industry. The government's objective was to eventually transfer all federally-developed reactor and fuel cycle technology to a self-sustaining private industry. Meeting this objective has cost the taxpayer an estimated $12.1 billion since 1950. The federal government's major support to the commercial nuclear industry has been in the following areas: (1) nuclear research, development, and demonstration; (2) nuclear regulation to protect the public's health and safety; (3) enrichment of uranium to make it usable in commercial nuclear power plants; (4) stimulation of domestic uranium mining; and (5) indemnification of power plant owners and others in the industry against nuclear accidents. A large nuclear reactor research, development, and demonstration program for fiscal years (FY) 1950 through 1978 has cost an estimated $8.6 billion and may total about $1.1 billion higher. The regulatory function has cost $1.2 billion from FY 1960 through 1978. The costs and apparent subsidies for uranium enrichment totalled $1.2 billion through FY 1978. Federal subsidies in the mining and indemnification areas have not fully been quantified. Estimates show that the average cost of nuclear-generated electricity was 1.46 cents per kilowatt-hour in 1976, 1.45 cents in 1977, and 1.5 cents in 1978. Two future areas of increased costs will be waste management and decommissioning, but the actual procedures and costs for these are not yet known.

Re: 2024

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:18 pm
by Sparko
I am having a hard time getting my head around how Republicans are able to harass a private citizen and grab private texts and emails, and even fabricate texts to try to mislead the public. Hunter Biden has a real damage suit against the government. Which pisses me off because it is only the Randy wing of the government running up a huge damage suit. It is coming.

Re: 2024

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:46 pm
by JKLivin
Sparko wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:18 pm I am having a hard time getting my head around how Republicans are able to harass a private citizen and grab private texts and emails, and even fabricate texts to try to mislead the public. Hunter Biden has a real damage suit against the government. Which pisses me off because it is only the Randy wing of the government running up a huge damage suit. It is coming.
I hope Hunter dies in prison with a grossly-enlarged anal sphincter.

Re: 2024

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:55 pm
by Sparko
JKLivin wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:46 pm
Sparko wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:18 pm I am having a hard time getting my head around how Republicans are able to harass a private citizen and grab private texts and emails, and even fabricate texts to try to mislead the public. Hunter Biden has a real damage suit against the government. Which pisses me off because it is only the Randy wing of the government running up a huge damage suit. It is coming.
I hope Hunter dies in prison with a grossly-enlarged anal sphincter.
If you ever have a loved one who falls into addiction, maybe you will understand. Lost his mom early in life and seems to just not deal with things well. And has done maybe one oercent what Trump and Rudy have been indicted for.

Re: 2024

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 7:21 pm
by JKLivin
Sparko wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:55 pm
JKLivin wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:46 pm
Sparko wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:18 pm I am having a hard time getting my head around how Republicans are able to harass a private citizen and grab private texts and emails, and even fabricate texts to try to mislead the public. Hunter Biden has a real damage suit against the government. Which pisses me off because it is only the Randy wing of the government running up a huge damage suit. It is coming.
I hope Hunter dies in prison with a grossly-enlarged anal sphincter.
If you ever have a loved one who falls into addiction, maybe you will understand. Lost his mom early in life and seems to just not deal with things well. And has done maybe one oercent what Trump and Rudy have been indicted for.
I know his story. His criminality isn’t excused by his addiction.

Re: 2024

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 11:18 pm
by Overlander
JKLivin wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 7:21 pm
Sparko wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:55 pm
JKLivin wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:46 pm

I hope Hunter dies in prison with a grossly-enlarged anal sphincter.
If you ever have a loved one who falls into addiction, maybe you will understand. Lost his mom early in life and seems to just not deal with things well. And has done maybe one oercent what Trump and Rudy have been indicted for.
I know his story. His criminality isn’t excused by his addiction.
Don’t let that stop you from dreaming about his sphincter though

Re: 2024

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 7:06 am
by JKLivin
Overlander, who is currently on your ignore list, made this post.
Display this post

Re: 2024

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 3:01 pm
by Overlander
Doesn’t really seem like a black-belt tough guy action.

But then, we all know Psych is definitely NOT that guy.

Re: 2024

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 8:57 am
by dolomite
Overlander wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 11:18 pm
JKLivin wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 7:21 pm
Sparko wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:55 pm
If you ever have a loved one who falls into addiction, maybe you will understand. Lost his mom early in life and seems to just not deal with things well. And has done maybe one oercent what Trump and Rudy have been indicted for.
I know his story. His criminality isn’t excused by his addiction.
Don’t let that stop you from dreaming about his sphincter though
GROSS!

Re: 2024

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 9:28 am
by twocoach
JKLivin wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 7:21 pm
Sparko wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:55 pm
JKLivin wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:46 pm

I hope Hunter dies in prison with a grossly-enlarged anal sphincter.
If you ever have a loved one who falls into addiction, maybe you will understand. Lost his mom early in life and seems to just not deal with things well. And has done maybe one oercent what Trump and Rudy have been indicted for.
I know his story. His criminality isn’t excused by his addiction.
By all accounts, Hunter Biden has broken some laws and it seems that he is on the way to being held accountable for that. I assume that you support criminals being held accountable for their actions when it is proven with real evidence they have committed crimes.

Re: 2024

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 9:34 am
by JKLivin
twocoach wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 9:28 am
JKLivin wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 7:21 pm
Sparko wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:55 pm
If you ever have a loved one who falls into addiction, maybe you will understand. Lost his mom early in life and seems to just not deal with things well. And has done maybe one oercent what Trump and Rudy have been indicted for.
I know his story. His criminality isn’t excused by his addiction.
By all accounts, Hunter Biden has broken some laws and it seems that he is on the way to being held accountable for that. I assume that you support criminals being held accountable for their actions when it is proven with real evidence they have committed crimes.
Indeed.