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Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 8:59 am
by DrPepper
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investig ... -shooting/

Lots of excerpts from the terroris’s writings on how he planned and how he hid things in the above WAPO article. Also info about his parents. Two civil engineers.

When my kid turned 18, I thought I should stop asking so many questions about Where are you going, who was there, etc, etc. I’m rethinking that now.
Parenting can be so hard. You never know what you are going to get with kids. One kid is fine and the sibling such a challenge (or nearly complete failure like the terrorist).

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 9:20 am
by ousdahl
what's Discord? some online messaging something? and he had an "invite-only" server, apparently.

but are there any administrators for Discord here? Do they bear any liability?

cuz it sounds like this was all planned out in real time. And, depending on how the invite only server works and whether Discord is allowed to just wash their hands of it here, he did it all in real time.

oh, and he killed and mutilated a feral cat then posted pics. nothing to see here.

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 10:06 am
by ousdahl
TDub wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 8:38 am
ousdahl wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 12:09 am
TDub wrote: Tue May 17, 2022 11:20 pm wasn't this a copycat "ish" from an attack in New Zealand?
Qusdahl says yer so close!
was it not?
oh, it totally was.

the dood spelled it out and everything.

He even displayed the sonnenrad "black sun" nazi symbol on the front page of his manifesto, and also wore it on his body armor.

It's the same insignia worn by the Christchurch shooter.

It's also the same insignia worn by who-knows how many Ukranian militants, armed by you and me.

Now, I'm not trying to suggest some direct link between the Buffalo shooter and Azov or something, so please spare me the war thread treatment. At the very least, though, I think some better understanding is warranted. But, I know that's just not an issue the western world is collectively willing to discuss.

And that's the point!

we just don't take the threat of white supremacy seriously enough.

We got this nazi making death threats and mutilating cats and posting his plans on some online forum (albeit "invite-only"), and we got nazis brutalizing ethnic civilians in eastern Europe. OK, maybe they are, and maybe that's just more Putin propaganda, right Qusdahl?

But again to the point - in both instances, the red flags are just kinda shrugged off.

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 10:33 am
by Deleted User 863
here we go again...

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 10:56 am
by DrPepper
ousdahl wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 9:20 am what's Discord? some online messaging something? and he had an "invite-only" server, apparently.
My limited experience with Discord is with people at work using it like Microsoft Teams or Google Drive.

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 11:42 am
by RainbowsandUnicorns
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 10:33 am here we go again...
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Another "mass" shooting? Or was that comment in regards to something else?

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 11:56 am
by Deleted User 863
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 11:42 am
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 10:33 am here we go again...
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Another "mass" shooting? Or was that comment in regards to something else?
Sorry. That was to Qusdahl getting ready to double down on his Russia/Ukraine stance.

Although I am sure a shooting is happening somewhere. Depending of definition of "mass shooting" there will likely be one in Chicago before the weekend is over.

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 1:44 pm
by ousdahl

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 1:48 pm
by KUTradition
how much you wanna bet someone involved is from topeka

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 1:57 pm
by KUTradition
heard from family that there was also a domestic murder in Lawrence last night…perp said god made them do it

sorry, guess that is for a different thread

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 2:10 pm
by TDub
KUTradition wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 1:57 pm heard from family that there was also a domestic murder in Lawrence last night…perp said god made them do it

sorry, guess that is for a different thread
shouldve gone to church more

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 2:11 pm
by TDub
ousdahl wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 10:06 am
TDub wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 8:38 am
ousdahl wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 12:09 am

Qusdahl says yer so close!
was it not?
oh, it totally was.

the dood spelled it out and everything.

He even displayed the sonnenrad "black sun" nazi symbol on the front page of his manifesto, and also wore it on his body armor.

It's the same insignia worn by the Christchurch shooter.

It's also the same insignia worn by who-knows how many Ukranian militants, armed by you and me.

Now, I'm not trying to suggest some direct link between the Buffalo shooter and Azov or something, so please spare me the war thread treatment. At the very least, though, I think some better understanding is warranted. But, I know that's just not an issue the western world is collectively willing to discuss.

And that's the point!

we just don't take the threat of white supremacy seriously enough.

We got this nazi making death threats and mutilating cats and posting his plans on some online forum (albeit "invite-only"), and we got nazis brutalizing ethnic civilians in eastern Europe. OK, maybe they are, and maybe that's just more Putin propaganda, right Qusdahl?

But again to the point - in both instances, the red flags are just kinda shrugged off.
im gonna ignore most of that so as not to rehash 53 pages from another thread.

my only point was that it's ironic that we're arguing that this only happens in America (for the most part that's accurate)...in an instance that was entirely based off a mass shooting from another country.

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 2:13 pm
by Deleted User 863
I blame eyesight more than testosterone. When's the last time a blind person shot a bunch of people in a grocery store?

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 2:19 pm
by TDub
also a shooting at a church in LA by a Chinese guy that hated Taiwanese people a couple days ago that no one talks about. It was a Tiawanese congregation 5 dead.

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 2:19 pm
by KUTradition
sarcasm is classless, but outright jokes are cool?

:lol:

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 2:20 pm
by UnholyLivingDead
KUTradition wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 1:57 pm heard from family that there was also a domestic murder in Lawrence last night…perp said god made them do it

sorry, guess that is for a different thread
Yeah, the victim was a former goalkeeper for the KU women's soccer team.

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 2:20 pm
by KUTradition
TDub wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 2:19 pm also a shooting at a church in LA by a Chinese guy that hated Taiwanese people a couple days ago that no one talks about. It was a Tiawanese congregation 5 dead.
there were others in the same time frame as well

limited bandwidth, donchaknow

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 2:20 pm
by KUTradition
UnholyLivingDead wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 2:20 pm
KUTradition wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 1:57 pm heard from family that there was also a domestic murder in Lawrence last night…perp said god made them do it

sorry, guess that is for a different thread
Yeah, the victim was a former goalkeeper for the KU women's soccer team.
jfc

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 2:59 pm
by KUTradition
sigh…

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... -us-safer/

half of humanity’s privately owned guns are in the US…some 400 million

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 3:04 pm
by Deleted User 863
I don't blame people for wanting a gun at the beginning of the pandemic. We came dangerously close to widespread food shortages which would have immediately resulted in panic and chaos. Society could break down in a hurry and then the violence will follow as people have to take from each other to survive. I'd rather have a gun and not need it than need a gun and not have it.