Kansas Crimson

Feral wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:26 am
We're not being asked to leave our families for 2 or 3 years and storm the beaches at Normandy to possibly die. We're not being ordered to deploy to Afghanistan or Iraq for the 2nd, or 3rd, or...th, time. We absolutely have be willing to do what we can to put an end to this as soon as possible. We should hope and pray that a "lockdown" is even enough. And while it might already be somewhat late, with pandemics, the goal is always to overshoot, because the penalty for failure to do so is likely too extreme not to.

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:50 am

Feral wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:26 am
We're not being asked to leave our families for 2 or 3 years and storm the beaches at Normandy to possibly die. We're not being ordered to deploy to Afghanistan or Iraq for the 2nd, or 3rd, or...th, time. We absolutely have be willing to do what we can to put an end to this as soon as possible. We should hope and pray that a "lockdown" is even enough. And while it might already be somewhat late, with pandemics, the goal is always to overshoot, because the penalty for failure to do so is likely too extreme not to.

This is the thing that I still can't quite wrap my head around. Granted, this situation is not all that unusual for me -- although it couldn't have come at a more awkward/inconvenient moment.
Still, MOST of us are being asked to hang out at home. That's it. The idea that this is somehow a huge sacrifice kinda blows my mind.

zsn wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:58 am

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:50 am

Feral wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:26 am
We're not being asked to leave our families for 2 or 3 years and storm the beaches at Normandy to possibly die. We're not being ordered to deploy to Afghanistan or Iraq for the 2nd, or 3rd, or...th, time. We absolutely have be willing to do what we can to put an end to this as soon as possible. We should hope and pray that a "lockdown" is even enough. And while it might already be somewhat late, with pandemics, the goal is always to overshoot, because the penalty for failure to do so is likely too extreme not to.

This is the thing that I still can't quite wrap my head around. Granted, this situation is not all that unusual for me -- although it couldn't have come at a more awkward/inconvenient moment.
Still, MOST of us are being asked to hang out at home. That's it. The idea that this is somehow a huge sacrifice kinda blows my mind.

Thankfully what I do for a living, in this current incarnation, can be done from home. I see no real difference other than social interactions and I agree with your sentiment above. However, for many leaving home is a requirement for earning a living - Uber/Lyft drivers, restaurant waitstaff, bartenders, landscape workers, house cleaners, store clerks etc. For them it IS a huge sacrifice. Not saying that it is unnecessary but I can see how life is exceptionally difficult for them

Asked about Trump’s proposed Easter timeline on a video conference Tuesday afternoon, Kansas Department of Health and Environment Secretary Lee Norman was incredulous.

“Did he say what calendar year?” Norman said.

Kansas City Mayor Quinton Lucas, who issued the metro’s first emergency declaration and ordered residents to stay home starting Tuesday, called the president’s shifting message “incredibly distressing,” particularly because he had been “starting to recognize the crisis.”

[...]

“I also know that if people die, I can’t bring them back,” Lucas said. “And so that’s why we take these sorts of steps because now from what we’re hearing from medical doctors, not just from game show hosts, is that this is the way that we can actually make some great difference in life outcomes for our community.”

There was also pushback from a staunch Trump ally, Republican Missouri Gov. Mike Parson, who dismissed the idea that restrictions put in place to slow the COVID-19 outbreak will be lifted anytime soon.

“I hope the president is right,” Parson said Tuesday of Trump’s earlier remarks, “but the reality is we are planning this much longer than two weeks here in the state of Missouri.”

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:50 am

Feral wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:26 am
We're not being asked to leave our families for 2 or 3 years and storm the beaches at Normandy to possibly die. We're not being ordered to deploy to Afghanistan or Iraq for the 2nd, or 3rd, or...th, time. We absolutely have be willing to do what we can to put an end to this as soon as possible. We should hope and pray that a "lockdown" is even enough. And while it might already be somewhat late, with pandemics, the goal is always to overshoot, because the penalty for failure to do so is likely too extreme not to.

This is the thing that I still can't quite wrap my head around. Granted, this situation is not all that unusual for me -- although it couldn't have come at a more awkward/inconvenient moment.
Still, MOST of us are being asked to hang out at home. That's it. The idea that this is somehow a huge sacrifice kinda blows my mind.

zsn wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:58 am

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:50 am

Feral wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:26 am
We're not being asked to leave our families for 2 or 3 years and storm the beaches at Normandy to possibly die. We're not being ordered to deploy to Afghanistan or Iraq for the 2nd, or 3rd, or...th, time. We absolutely have be willing to do what we can to put an end to this as soon as possible. We should hope and pray that a "lockdown" is even enough. And while it might already be somewhat late, with pandemics, the goal is always to overshoot, because the penalty for failure to do so is likely too extreme not to.

This is the thing that I still can't quite wrap my head around. Granted, this situation is not all that unusual for me -- although it couldn't have come at a more awkward/inconvenient moment.
Still, MOST of us are being asked to hang out at home. That's it. The idea that this is somehow a huge sacrifice kinda blows my mind.

Thankfully what I do for a living, in this current incarnation, can be done from home. I see no real difference other than social interactions and I agree with your sentiment above. However, for many leaving home is a requirement for earning a living - Uber/Lyft drivers, restaurant waitstaff, bartenders, landscape workers, house cleaners, store clerks etc. For them it IS a huge sacrifice. Not saying that it is unnecessary but I can see how life is exceptionally difficult for them

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:31 pm

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:50 am

Feral wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:26 am
We're not being asked to leave our families for 2 or 3 years and storm the beaches at Normandy to possibly die. We're not being ordered to deploy to Afghanistan or Iraq for the 2nd, or 3rd, or...th, time. We absolutely have be willing to do what we can to put an end to this as soon as possible. We should hope and pray that a "lockdown" is even enough. And while it might already be somewhat late, with pandemics, the goal is always to overshoot, because the penalty for failure to do so is likely too extreme not to.

This is the thing that I still can't quite wrap my head around. Granted, this situation is not all that unusual for me -- although it couldn't have come at a more awkward/inconvenient moment.
Still, MOST of us are being asked to hang out at home. That's it. The idea that this is somehow a huge sacrifice kinda blows my mind.

What’s the longest you’ve ever spent alone? A few hours? A day or two? Was it of your own volition?

The only people I talk to who think the shelter-in-place orders are no big deal are those who have no clue what a living hell thirty days alone is in reality.

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:50 am

Feral wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:26 am
We're not being asked to leave our families for 2 or 3 years and storm the beaches at Normandy to possibly die. We're not being ordered to deploy to Afghanistan or Iraq for the 2nd, or 3rd, or...th, time. We absolutely have be willing to do what we can to put an end to this as soon as possible. We should hope and pray that a "lockdown" is even enough. And while it might already be somewhat late, with pandemics, the goal is always to overshoot, because the penalty for failure to do so is likely too extreme not to.

This is the thing that I still can't quite wrap my head around. Granted, this situation is not all that unusual for me -- although it couldn't have come at a more awkward/inconvenient moment.
Still, MOST of us are being asked to hang out at home. That's it. The idea that this is somehow a huge sacrifice kinda blows my mind.

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:31 pm]

What’s the longest you’ve ever spent alone? A few hours? A day or two? Was it of your own volition?

The only people I talk to who think the shelter-in-place orders are no big deal are those who have no clue what a living hell thirty days alone is in reality.

defixione wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:57 pm As an answer to your question, I spent five months on the Pacific ocean with three other crewmates on a 65-foot ketch sailing back from Hawaii to San Diego.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:18 pm I am heartened to see this.

‘Incredibly distressing’: Local leaders break with Trump on relaxing COVID-19 efforts

https://www.kansascity.com/news/politic ... 71966.html

Asked about Trump’s proposed Easter timeline on a video conference Tuesday afternoon, Kansas Department of Health and Environment Secretary Lee Norman was incredulous.

“Did he say what calendar year?” Norman said.

Kansas City Mayor Quinton Lucas, who issued the metro’s first emergency declaration and ordered residents to stay home starting Tuesday, called the president’s shifting message “incredibly distressing,” particularly because he had been “starting to recognize the crisis.”

[...]

“I also know that if people die, I can’t bring them back,” Lucas said. “And so that’s why we take these sorts of steps because now from what we’re hearing from medical doctors, not just from game show hosts, is that this is the way that we can actually make some great difference in life outcomes for our community.”

There was also pushback from a staunch Trump ally, Republican Missouri Gov. Mike Parson, who dismissed the idea that restrictions put in place to slow the COVID-19 outbreak will be lifted anytime soon.

“I hope the president is right,” Parson said Tuesday of Trump’s earlier remarks, “but the reality is we are planning this much longer than two weeks here in the state of Missouri.”

Most important (for a lot of reasons) is obviously Parson. I truly am heartened that he is prepared to give Trump's "go back to work" order the (zero) deference it deserves.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:44 pm

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:31 pm

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:50 am

This is the thing that I still can't quite wrap my head around. Granted, this situation is not all that unusual for me -- although it couldn't have come at a more awkward/inconvenient moment.
Still, MOST of us are being asked to hang out at home. That's it. The idea that this is somehow a huge sacrifice kinda blows my mind.

What’s the longest you’ve ever spent alone? A few hours? A day or two? Was it of your own volition?

The only people I talk to who think the shelter-in-place orders are no big deal are those who have no clue what a living hell thirty days alone is in reality.

Sheltering in place, with a house, a yard, an active job and a family of five, is not terribly oppressive.

My 23-year-old sister-in-law, who lives by herself in a 700 square foot apartment, is I'm sure having a much more difficult time.

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 1:21 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:44 pm

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:31 pm

What’s the longest you’ve ever spent alone? A few hours? A day or two? Was it of your own volition?

The only people I talk to who think the shelter-in-place orders are no big deal are those who have no clue what a living hell thirty days alone is in reality.

Sheltering in place, with a house, a yard, an active job and a family of five, is not terribly oppressive.

My 23-year-old sister-in-law, who lives by herself in a 700 square foot apartment, is I'm sure having a much more difficult time.

Yup. If I had a family of five, I’d probably be a lot less stressed. As it stands, I’m much closer to your sister’s predicament.

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 1:12 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:18 pm I am heartened to see this.

‘Incredibly distressing’: Local leaders break with Trump on relaxing COVID-19 efforts

https://www.kansascity.com/news/politic ... 71966.html

Asked about Trump’s proposed Easter timeline on a video conference Tuesday afternoon, Kansas Department of Health and Environment Secretary Lee Norman was incredulous.

“Did he say what calendar year?” Norman said.

Kansas City Mayor Quinton Lucas, who issued the metro’s first emergency declaration and ordered residents to stay home starting Tuesday, called the president’s shifting message “incredibly distressing,” particularly because he had been “starting to recognize the crisis.”

[...]

“I also know that if people die, I can’t bring them back,” Lucas said. “And so that’s why we take these sorts of steps because now from what we’re hearing from medical doctors, not just from game show hosts, is that this is the way that we can actually make some great difference in life outcomes for our community.”

There was also pushback from a staunch Trump ally, Republican Missouri Gov. Mike Parson, who dismissed the idea that restrictions put in place to slow the COVID-19 outbreak will be lifted anytime soon.

“I hope the president is right,” Parson said Tuesday of Trump’s earlier remarks, “but the reality is we are planning this much longer than two weeks here in the state of Missouri.”

Most important (for a lot of reasons) is obviously Parson. I truly am heartened that he is prepared to give Trump's "go back to work" order the (zero) deference it deserves.

lulz @ "deadline."

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 1:39 pm

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 1:21 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:44 pm

Sheltering in place, with a house, a yard, an active job and a family of five, is not terribly oppressive.

My 23-year-old sister-in-law, who lives by herself in a 700 square foot apartment, is I'm sure having a much more difficult time.

Yup. If I had a family of five, I’d probably be a lot less stressed. As it stands, I’m much closer to your sister’s predicament.

You're not on lockdown (yet). It's not nearly as bad and limiting as you make it out to be. My hair will be a little longer, my gut a little fatter, and my wallet heavier b/c of the lack of bar tabs. Otherwise, life is going on.

Although, living in bumfuck Kansas would suck extra hard during that time.