That's the question. That's Imperial College vs. Taleb
Can’t control the people unless you keep them scared.
Do you really think that's what this about, controlling people?
I don’t think the virus was man-made or somehow generated for that purpose, but I do think the opportunity is being seized to do things that have been on the agenda for a long time, such as moving to digital currency, getting people used to having their movements tracked and controlled, nationalizing healthcare, and potentially introducing martial law by creating an environment for such civil unrest that the government will be “compelled” to do so. A one world government can’t come into effect until the U.S. economy is effectively collapsed. It would seem we are well on our way.
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:45 am
by DCHawk1
Oh.
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 6:23 am
by Shirley
jhawks99 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:45 pm
Just fucking great.
Can’t control the people unless you keep them scared.
Do you really think that's what this about, controlling people?
I don’t think the virus was man-made or somehow generated for that purpose, but I do think the opportunity is being seized to do things that have been on the agenda for a long time, such as moving to digital currency, getting people used to having their movements tracked and controlled, nationalizing healthcare, and potentially introducing martial law by creating an environment for such civil unrest that the government will be “compelled” to do so. A one world government can’t come into effect until the U.S. economy is effectively collapsed. It would seem we are well on our way.
I hate to admit it, but Psych's right. I too "think the opportunity is being seized to do things that have been on the agenda for a long time", such as:
Internal reports from the Department of Homeland Security and the FBI drafted in recent days have warned about the threat from white supremacist and other extremist groups related to the Covid-19 pandemic.
In a DHS document dated Monday and obtained by CNN, counterterrorism officials from the agency cited reports about white supremacists calling for people with the virus to intentionally spread it in diverse neighborhoods and at places of worship.
A separate internal report drafted by FBI officials in New York last week also warned of potential efforts by extremist groups to weaponize the virus against law enforcement officers and Jews.
"Members of extremist groups are encouraging one another to spread the virus, if contracted, to targeted groups through bodily fluids and personal interactions," the report, which was reviewed by CNN, says.
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And, I don't think your reply to me here earlier in the thread was accurate, because I've never even imagined what you're alleging in your post above:
Feral wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:35 pm
Tear yourself away from Breitbart and Stormfront for a few minutes and see what "lockdown" amounts to in various locales.
I read neither of those sources. I would venture that we both read the same ones.
Now, the patient has Covid-19 and his lungs are failing to function properly, said Dr. Keith Mortman, the chief of thoracic surgery at George Washington University Hospital. The Washington, D.C., hospital recently released a 3D video of the coronavirus patient's lungs.
The imagery shows extensive damage to the lungs of a generally healthy 59-year-old male with high blood pressure, Mortman said. Since becoming seriously ill, the patient requires a ventilator to help him breathe, but even on the highest setting, it's not enough. He also needs another machine that circulates and then oxygenates his blood, Mortman said.
"This is not a 70, 80-year-old immunosuppressed, diabetic patient," Mortman said. "Other than high blood pressure, he has no other significant medical issues. This is a guy who's minding his own business and gets it ... If we were to repeat the 360VR images now, that is one week later, there is a chance that the infection and inflammatory process could be worse."
Areas marked in yellow on the video represent infected and inflamed parts of the lung, Mortman said. When the lungs encounter a viral infection, the organ will start to seal the virus off. From the scan, it is clear that the damage isn't localized to a single area, but instead covers massive swaths of both lungs, showing how rapidly and aggressively the infection can take hold, even in younger patients. A patient with healthy lungs would have no yellow on the scan, he said.
The patient remains in critical condition in the ICU.
"For these patients who essentially present in progressive respiratory failure, the damage to the lungs is rapid and widespread (as evidenced in the VR video)," Mortman said in an email. "Unfortunately, once damaged to this degree, the lungs can take a long time to heal. For approximately 2-4% (depending on which numbers you believe) of patients with Covid-19, the damage is irreversible and they will succumb to the disease."
...The hospital typically uses the CT imaging technology that produced the video for cancer screenings and to plan surgeries. But for the first time, the technology has now been applied to fighting the novel coronavirus.
"A lot of us, we are walking in the dark with this," Mortman said. "So we want to understand it as best we can. This was our first patient, but I am sure he is the first of what will likely become many in the coming weeks."
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:11 am
by MICHHAWK
Everybody knows the covid19 is a bad deal. But we can’t and we won’t stay quarantined forever. We can’t and we won’t live in fear forever.
Not saying we 100% get back to pre covid19 normal in the next day or week or month or two. But we have to start inching our way out pretty soon. We have to.
Can’t control the people unless you keep them scared.
Do you really think that's what this about, controlling people?
I don’t think the virus was man-made or somehow generated for that purpose, but I do think the opportunity is being seized to do things that have been on the agenda for a long time, such as moving to digital currency, getting people used to having their movements tracked and controlled, nationalizing healthcare, and potentially introducing martial law by creating an environment for such civil unrest that the government will be “compelled” to do so. A one world government can’t come into effect until the U.S. economy is effectively collapsed. It would seem we are well on our way.
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Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:36 am
by defixione
Good one, 76er.
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:51 am
by Shirley
MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:11 am
Everybody knows the covid19 is a bad deal. But we can’t and we won’t stay quarantined forever. We can’t and we won’t live in fear forever.
Not saying we 100% get back to pre covid19 normal in the next day or week or month or two. But we have to start inching our way out pretty soon. We have to.
You are ignoring reality.
Although we still, still haven't done sufficient testing to determine a denominator to know in any accurate way what we're up against, the handwriting is on the wall. We don't "have to start inching our way out pretty soon...", we need to do everything we can NOW to limit the damage as fast as we can, by, among other things, isolating ourselves as much as possible.
I have this quote taped to my monitor, and read it nearly every day. I think it applies to our current situation, vis-a-vis the pandemic:
"In investing, that which is comfortable is rarely profitable."
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:02 am
by HouseDivided
MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:11 am
Everybody knows the covid19 is a bad deal. But we can’t and we won’t stay quarantined forever. We can’t and we won’t live in fear forever.
Not saying we 100% get back to pre covid19 normal in the next day or week or month or two. But we have to start inching our way out pretty soon. We have to.
I agree. Living like a Third World totalitarian sh*thole is not a long-term solution.