Kansas Crimson

Posted: **Tue Apr 25, 2023 10:15 am**

pdub wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 9:43 pm Elon is a spaz but the blue check thing I don't find bad.
He's trying to make money ( or loose less of it ), 10 bucks a month for the badge?
People who need to be verified can afford it.

He can make whatever business decisions he'd like. I personally think charging people for Twitter fundamentally misunderstands where the value in Twitter comes from. And I don't have a lot of hope that Musk can successfully (and actively) run a business he doesn't understand.

I also think he's courting MAJOR liability by "gifting" blue checks to those who don't pay for them. Creates the appearance of an endorsement.

Posted: **Tue Apr 25, 2023 11:38 am**

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 10:15 am
pdub wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 9:43 pm Elon is a spaz but the blue check thing I don't find bad.
He's trying to make money ( or loose less of it ), 10 bucks a month for the badge?
People who need to be verified can afford it.
He can make whatever business decisions he'd like. I personally think charging people for Twitter fundamentally misunderstands where the value in Twitter comes from. And I don't have a lot of hope that Musk can successfully (and actively) run a business he doesn't understand.

I also think he's courting MAJOR liability by "gifting" blue checks to those who don't pay for them. Creates the appearance of an endorsement.

Yeah, how could the richest man in the world, who owns several billion dollar companies, possibly have a clue how to run a company...

Only you could come up with such an opinion

Posted: **Tue Apr 25, 2023 11:42 am**

Twitter is the most simple and basic company elon is involved with. He was able to reduce staffing by 80 percent while improving its features

And thats in spite of political opposition of him acquiring, since for reasom, democrats view freedom of speech as a threat to them

Posted: **Tue Apr 25, 2023 11:47 am**

randylahey wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 11:38 am
jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 10:15 am
pdub wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 9:43 pm Elon is a spaz but the blue check thing I don't find bad.
He's trying to make money ( or loose less of it ), 10 bucks a month for the badge?
People who need to be verified can afford it.
He can make whatever business decisions he'd like. I personally think charging people for Twitter fundamentally misunderstands where the value in Twitter comes from. And I don't have a lot of hope that Musk can successfully (and actively) run a business he doesn't understand.

I also think he's courting MAJOR liability by "gifting" blue checks to those who don't pay for them. Creates the appearance of an endorsement.
Yeah, how could the richest man in the world, who owns several billion dollar companies, possibly have a clue how to run a company...

Only you could come up with such an opinion

Musk and Trump really aren’t so different from each other. They’re each convinced of their own, all-encompassing brilliance. They’re both so vain as to start slapping their names on random, inoperable/ineffective stuff. They both surround themselves with sycophants and enablers, so as to never actually engage with anyone who doesn’t worship the ground they stand on.

Trump’s presently ahead, in terms of the chickens coming home to roost. But it’s coming for Musk, too.

Posted: **Tue Apr 25, 2023 11:50 am**

randylahey wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 11:42 am Twitter is the most simple and basic company elon is involved with. He was able to reduce staffing by 80 percent while improving its features

And thats in spite of political opposition of him acquiring, since for reasom, democrats view freedom of speech as a threat to them

You continue to have NO IDEA what “freedom of speech” means.

Posted: **Tue Apr 25, 2023 11:53 am**

lala land

Posted: **Tue Apr 25, 2023 12:31 pm**

In Nov of '22, twitter had ~ 4 million verified users/blue check marks. Assuming all of them are willing to pay $8.00/month, $84/year, that would generate $384 million in annual revenue.

Before Leon arrived with his oh so savvy business brilliance, twitter generated $5.08 billion in revenue from advertising in 2021.

As of Feb of '23, more than half of twitter's top 1,000 advertisers in Sept. '22 stopped advertising on the platform in the first weeks of Jan '21.

$384 million in subscriptions/$5.08 billion in advertising = 7.7%, a pittance in comparison.

But, we all know many of the 4 million people who previously had blue checkmarks aren't going to pay for them, so the amount Leon's collecting is below even $384 million.

Now that twitter appears to be failing as a subscription-based platform, you have to wonder what Leon's next business-Ninja move will be to monetize the system he's in the process of destroying?

Posted: **Tue Apr 25, 2023 12:35 pm**

Feral wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 12:31 pm In Nov of '22, twitter had ~ 4 million verified users/blue check marks. Assuming all of them are willing to pay $8.00/month, $84/year, that would generate $384 million in annual revenue.

Before Leon arrived with his oh so savvy business brilliance, twitter generated $5.08 billion in revenue from advertising in 2021.

As of Feb of '23, more than half of twitter's top 1,000 advertisers in Sept. '22 stopped advertising on the platform in the first weeks of Jan '21.

$384 million in subscriptions/$5.08 billion in advertising = 7.7%, a pittance in comparison.

But, we all know many of the 4 million people who previously had blue checkmarks aren't going to pay for them, so the amount Leon's collecting is below even $384 million.

Now that twitter appears to be failing as a subscription-based platform, you have to wonder what Leon's next business-Ninja move will be to monetize the system he's in the process of destroying?

I mean, the next logical thing would be for him to say that, in the spirit of free speech, only paying users’ direct messages will remain private.

Posted: **Tue Apr 25, 2023 2:10 pm**

https://www.wfla.com/technology-en/a-13 ... op-it/amp/

Heather and Ken McConney, the boy’s parents, told NBC News that they believe the kidnapping was preventable. It came after a series of missed opportunities over the span of nearly a month, where, they said, Twitter and law enforcement failed to effectively intervene despite an abundance of information posted online. They’re demanding answers.

nah…free speech, man

Posted: **Tue Apr 25, 2023 3:32 pm**

KUTradition wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 2:10 pm https://www.wfla.com/technology-en/a-13 ... op-it/amp/

Heather and Ken McConney, the boy’s parents, told NBC News that they believe the kidnapping was preventable. It came after a series of missed opportunities over the span of nearly a month, where, they said, Twitter and law enforcement failed to effectively intervene despite an abundance of information posted online. They’re demanding answers.

nah…free speech, man

Social media platform liability (on things like this) is an extremely nuanced subject. I'm not sure there are "right" answers.

I definitely DO know that one of the key reasons social media companies would NOT want to be considered quasi-public "places" is that they do NOT want liability for what happens to members of the public who "gather" there.

Posted: **Tue Apr 25, 2023 3:43 pm**

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 3:32 pm
KUTradition wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 2:10 pm https://www.wfla.com/technology-en/a-13 ... op-it/amp/

Heather and Ken McConney, the boy’s parents, told NBC News that they believe the kidnapping was preventable. It came after a series of missed opportunities over the span of nearly a month, where, they said, Twitter and law enforcement failed to effectively intervene despite an abundance of information posted online. They’re demanding answers.

nah…free speech, man
Social media platform liability (on things like this) is an extremely nuanced subject. I'm not sure there are "right" answers.

I definitely DO know that one of the key reasons social media companies would NOT want to be considered quasi-public "places" is that they do NOT want liability for what happens to members of the public who "gather" there.

i’m sure that even under the best circumstances of monitoring and protection, that some things would fall through the cracks…it’s inevitable

in this particular situation it seems like twitter dragged its feet throughout, even after the correct handle was provided (layton pd seems to have screwed the pooch here)

twitter users finding and flagging the account before twitter itself does, after musk claims that combatting these kinds of things was priority #1, is what i find so problematic

but for me this also ties into the larger issue of access to social media platforms by minors, the risks involved and the potential damage that can be done (be it directly from other users, or from a more general mental health/personal image perspective)

imo, no 12 year old NEEDS a cell phone. but, i’m not a parent

(i didn’t get my first cell until age 19)

Posted: **Tue Apr 25, 2023 6:58 pm**

I read Trad's last line and thought he did hard time. Phew.

I echo his post, however. Watch what your kids consume

Posted: **Wed Apr 26, 2023 10:49 am**

so, how about Montana banning tiktok from personal devices?

Posted: **Wed Apr 26, 2023 11:04 am**

The idea is the app itself is believed to contain Chinese spyware. Plus it doesn't actually limit TikTok since people can still use it through heir browsers.

If that's the case I have no problem with that. Maybe in part because I like almost everything better through the browser anyway.

Posted: **Wed Apr 26, 2023 11:07 am**

i just find the cognitive dissonance amusing, given all the voluntary sharing of data to twitter, facebook, tesla, etc

(particularly in light of things like this: https://insideevs.com/news/661307/tesla ... eport/amp/)

Posted: **Wed Apr 26, 2023 11:40 am**

Yea, I think the issue with Tik Tok may be less the privacy or spying issue themselves, and more just that tik tok and/or China is less likely to play ball if the gummint wants access to such data, which Meta et al is more likely to provide.

And/or, it’s more simply that Meta et al is lobbying gummint to ban tik tok cuz that would push a lot more users to/back to Meta brands and other platforms.

I think we discussed India banning Tik Tok. Apparently it was over some land dispute with China? And was among a large number of apps to be banned.

But, most articles about the event said the single biggest beneficiary of the ban was Instagram, which suddenly gained hundreds of millions of new users in Indian markets

Posted: **Wed Apr 26, 2023 11:44 am**

Also, anyone see the story about Elon denying he was a silver spoon baby who started off with his fam’s apartheid emerald mine fortune, and offered a one million dogecoin reward to anyone who could prove the mine existed, and his own fucking father called him out that the mine totally did/does exist, lulz

But maybe that’s for the evil rich people thread

Posted: **Wed Apr 26, 2023 12:20 pm**

One million dogecoin, that's like $0, right?

Posted: **Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:08 am**

Mars sucks (not sure if there’s a way to embiid the video)

https://www.activistalosangeles.com/mars-sucks

Posted: **Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:32 am**

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