Kansas Crimson

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:44 am

Qusdahl wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:38 am Yeah.

This team’s ceiling is in transition, if they’re able to turn a game into a track meet.

But - are we really doing that, at least yet? How often do we really score an easy transition bucket?

IS Harris loads better in transition? Is there a fast break points stat for this team?

And while I agree that Harris brings the intangibles, I also don’t know if I’ve ever seen a D1 guard who was less of a threat to score.

Like for real how can a guy drive the lane and be looking everywhere but the rim!

?

We've been getting out in transition all season. Latest example was . . . Monday night when transition buckets built the lead that we eventually blew. It is a big reason why CB's numbers are so much better this year as he is a killer in transition. Och too as he gets some of his best 3 point looks in transition. We are playing the fastest pace of the Bill Self era, even faster than 2018 (last I checked).

Of course, that's even more reason to play Remy, but Dajuan does fine on the break because of his vision and the fact that he will get the ball down the court quickly.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:46 am

Cascadia wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:43 am Only Qusdahl can turn this place into a bunch of Harris apologists.

Harris is, without question, the soft spot on this team. The comparison to Tharpe is fair.

The soft spots are the 1 and 5 spots on offense, and that gets really tricky in the half court offense.

Qusdahl wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:47 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:44 am

Qusdahl wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:38 am Yeah.

This team’s ceiling is in transition, if they’re able to turn a game into a track meet.

But - are we really doing that, at least yet? How often do we really score an easy transition bucket?

IS Harris loads better in transition? Is there a fast break points stat for this team?

And while I agree that Harris brings the intangibles, I also don’t know if I’ve ever seen a D1 guard who was less of a threat to score.

Like for real how can a guy drive the lane and be looking everywhere but the rim!

?

We've been getting out in transition all season. Latest example was . . . Monday night when transition buckets built the lead that we eventually blew. It is a big reason why CB's numbers are so much better this year as he is a killer in transition. Och too as he gets some of his best 3 point looks in transition. We are playing the fastest pace of the Bill Self era, even faster than 2018 (last I checked).

Of course, that's even more reason to play Remy, but Dajuan does fine on the break because of his vision and the fact that he will get the ball down the court quickly.

So maybe the question is, why weren’t we able to keep the transition game going down the stretch and in OT the other night?

Dajuan’s one assist throughout all that was after Och swished a guarded 26 footer on a broken half court play.

Maybe it’s a Dajuan stamina thing?

Cascadia wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:47 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:46 am

Cascadia wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:43 am Only Qusdahl can turn this place into a bunch of Harris apologists.

Harris is, without question, the soft spot on this team. The comparison to Tharpe is fair.

The soft spots are the 1 and 5 spots on offense, and that gets really tricky in the half court offense.

Sure, but at least Dave (even bad, snowflake Dave) draws a defender

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:48 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:21 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:10 am

Pairing 2 all star starters with Naadir Tharpe is one of Self's all-time blunders.

He has come a long way, but we are in for an interesting February.

The Calipari way hasn't worked better than the Self way.

Everyone wants the Cal way until you're watching your team in the NIT.

He has more tourney wins and more Final Fours. It has worked better when it has worked but it has been more volatile. Kentucky has been higher peaks and lower valleys while Kansas has been more consistently good.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:46 am

Cascadia wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:43 am Only Qusdahl can turn this place into a bunch of Harris apologists.

Harris is, without question, the soft spot on this team. The comparison to Tharpe is fair.

The soft spots are the 1 and 5 spots on offense, and that gets really tricky in the half court offense.

Qusdahl wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:38 am Yeah.

This team’s ceiling is in transition, if they’re able to turn a game into a track meet.

But - are we really doing that, at least yet? How often do we really score an easy transition bucket?

IS Harris loads better in transition? Is there a fast break points stat for this team?

And while I agree that Harris brings the intangibles, I also don’t know if I’ve ever seen a D1 guard who was less of a threat to score.

Like for real how can a guy drive the lane and be looking everywhere but the rim!

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:55 am So essentially Harris is the lowest scoring scholarship player in the Self era.

I stick up for Harris for 10 minutes and that grim fact gets rightfully thrown in my face.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:59 am

Qusdahl wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:38 am Yeah.

This team’s ceiling is in transition, if they’re able to turn a game into a track meet.

But - are we really doing that, at least yet? How often do we really score an easy transition bucket?

IS Harris loads better in transition? Is there a fast break points stat for this team?

And while I agree that Harris brings the intangibles, I also don’t know if I’ve ever seen a D1 guard who was less of a threat to score.

Like for real how can a guy drive the lane and be looking everywhere but the rim!

The only way to "play in transition" is to get stops/steals/blocks. You can't get out in transition if the other team is scoring. Or if you need 4 or 5 guys to crash the defensive glass.

Cascadia wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:43 am Only Qusdahl can turn this place into a bunch of Harris apologists.

Harris is, without question, the soft spot on this team. The comparison to Tharpe is fair.

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:37 am

Mjl wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:31 am Tharpe was also on a team that didn't need him to score. That's the difference. His dumb plays didn't always show up on the stats sheet, the same way Juan's hockey assists don't show up on the stat sheet, or half the possesion-saving plays he makes.

Dumb plays are really bad when you're an undertalented point guard with talent around you. Harris is light years better than Naadir for a talented team. But it won't show on the stat sheet.

How is that a difference? Kansas doesn't need Harris to score either. Tharpe was the 5th leading scorer his junior year; Harris is 6th this year. Their "needs" are pretty identical.

To me, the difference is that this is Harris' 2nd year playing that is being compared to Tharpe's 3rd year playing. If this year's Kansas team had next year's version of Harris playing then I think they would be much more consistent and not have as many scoring droughts.

Qusdahl wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:47 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:44 am

Qusdahl wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:38 am Yeah.

This team’s ceiling is in transition, if they’re able to turn a game into a track meet.

But - are we really doing that, at least yet? How often do we really score an easy transition bucket?

IS Harris loads better in transition? Is there a fast break points stat for this team?

And while I agree that Harris brings the intangibles, I also don’t know if I’ve ever seen a D1 guard who was less of a threat to score.

Like for real how can a guy drive the lane and be looking everywhere but the rim!

?

We've been getting out in transition all season. Latest example was . . . Monday night when transition buckets built the lead that we eventually blew. It is a big reason why CB's numbers are so much better this year as he is a killer in transition. Och too as he gets some of his best 3 point looks in transition. We are playing the fastest pace of the Bill Self era, even faster than 2018 (last I checked).

Of course, that's even more reason to play Remy, but Dajuan does fine on the break because of his vision and the fact that he will get the ball down the court quickly.

So maybe the question is, why weren’t we able to keep the transition game going down the stretch and in OT the other night?

Dajuan’s one assist throughout all that was after Och swished a guarded 26 footer on a broken half court play.

Maybe it’s a Dajuan stamina thing?

Sparko wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:06 amThe five on four tech defense was a wake-up call.