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TDub wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 6:32 pm true....but would we even want FSU? not a good school academically, basketballs not good, football has been mostly irrelevant since Bobby.

Id rather go after some combo of Oregon, Washington, Arizona, Colorado, Utah.

TDub wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 6:32 pm true....but would we even want FSU? not a good school academically, basketballs not good, football has been mostly irrelevant since Bobby.

Id rather go after some combo of Oregon, Washington, Arizona, Colorado, Utah.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 6:54 pm

TDub wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 6:32 pm true....but would we even want FSU? not a good school academically, basketballs not good, football has been mostly irrelevant since Bobby.

Id rather go after some combo of Oregon, Washington, Arizona, Colorado, Utah.

I wonder if it is more likely Oregon will end up in the big 10 when it's all said and done?

TDub wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 5:12 pm Florida State reportedly considering leaving the ACC. Not sure where they would go though unless the SEC is gonna go to 24 teams or something. They don't really fit anywhere else.

hartjack8 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 8:45 pm

TDub wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 5:12 pm Florida State reportedly considering leaving the ACC. Not sure where they would go though unless the SEC is gonna go to 24 teams or something. They don't really fit anywhere else.

Whoa Whoa...slow down there.

FSU is pissed. Their ACC TV contract which runs till something like 2036 is 30 million per school less than SEC and Big10. The foolish ACC schools signed this deal and supposedly you can not get out of the ACC with your TV rights till deal is done. So for the next 10+ years FSU getting 30 million less every freaking year.

So FSU is pissed. They at the last ACC conference meeting decided to bring up that the payouts which are now 100% equal for all schools need to be split in a way where they get more money. This of course went nowhere.

So FSU is pissed cause they are for sure getting 30 million less till 2036 and there is nothing they can do.

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:03 am it would be good for the BIG 12 if the acc lost it's most prominent members.

hartjack8 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 8:45 pm

TDub wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 5:12 pm Florida State reportedly considering leaving the ACC. Not sure where they would go though unless the SEC is gonna go to 24 teams or something. They don't really fit anywhere else.

Whoa Whoa...slow down there.

FSU is pissed. Their ACC TV contract which runs till something like 2036 is 30 million per school less than SEC and Big10. The foolish ACC schools signed this deal and supposedly you can not get out of the ACC with your TV rights till deal is done. So for the next 10+ years FSU getting 30 million less every freaking year.

So FSU is pissed. They at the last ACC conference meeting decided to bring up that the payouts which are now 100% equal for all schools need to be split in a way where they get more money. This of course went nowhere.

So FSU is pissed cause they are for sure getting 30 million less till 2036 and there is nothing they can do.

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:20 am

hartjack8 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 8:45 pm

TDub wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 5:12 pm Florida State reportedly considering leaving the ACC. Not sure where they would go though unless the SEC is gonna go to 24 teams or something. They don't really fit anywhere else.

Whoa Whoa...slow down there.

FSU is pissed. Their ACC TV contract which runs till something like 2036 is 30 million per school less than SEC and Big10. The foolish ACC schools signed this deal and supposedly you can not get out of the ACC with your TV rights till deal is done. So for the next 10+ years FSU getting 30 million less every freaking year.

So FSU is pissed. They at the last ACC conference meeting decided to bring up that the payouts which are now 100% equal for all schools need to be split in a way where they get more money. This of course went nowhere.

So FSU is pissed cause they are for sure getting 30 million less till 2036 and there is nothing they can do.

Anyone who signs a massive length contract and then complains about changes to the market during that time can go fuck themselves. A long contract means you don't have to worry about your situation for a long time so either don't worry about it or don't sign such a long term contract. The stability of having everyone locked in looks appealing until you realize what that stability costs.

TDub wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:34 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:20 am

hartjack8 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 8:45 pm
Whoa Whoa...slow down there.

FSU is pissed. Their ACC TV contract which runs till something like 2036 is 30 million per school less than SEC and Big10. The foolish ACC schools signed this deal and supposedly you can not get out of the ACC with your TV rights till deal is done. So for the next 10+ years FSU getting 30 million less every freaking year.

So FSU is pissed. They at the last ACC conference meeting decided to bring up that the payouts which are now 100% equal for all schools need to be split in a way where they get more money. This of course went nowhere.

So FSU is pissed cause they are for sure getting 30 million less till 2036 and there is nothing they can do.

Anyone who signs a massive length contract and then complains about changes to the market during that time can go fuck themselves. A long contract means you don't have to worry about your situation for a long time so either don't worry about it or don't sign such a long term contract. The stability of having everyone locked in looks appealing until you realize what that stability costs.

you mean like every professional athlete? Particularly QBs that renegotiate long term contracts seemingly every year?

Never refinance your house then when the market rates change?

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:33 am

TDub wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:34 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:20 am

Anyone who signs a massive length contract and then complains about changes to the market during that time can go fuck themselves. A long contract means you don't have to worry about your situation for a long time so either don't worry about it or don't sign such a long term contract. The stability of having everyone locked in looks appealing until you realize what that stability costs.

you mean like every professional athlete? Particularly QBs that renegotiate long term contracts seemingly every year?

Never refinance your house then when the market rates change?

I have no empathy for athletes who sign contracts and then complain in public about the terms of the agreement they agreed to.

And even though mortgages vs. salaries is about as apples vs. oranges as it gets and neither really compares to a contract for media rights, I did not complain in the media about my mortgage with a company after I signed it (when I had a mortgage). I either honored it and paid it monthly or I paid whatever fees were required for me to refinance it. If FSU wants to get out of their contract, then they should be prepared to pay whatever fees are defined in the contract they signed.

Any ACC school that thought their super long media rights contract wasn't going to get passed over by larger contracts by other conferences is led by idiots. It's like if Mahomes though that he was going to always be the highest paid QB for the length of his 10+ year contract. If that was the goal then that should have been built into the contract. If ACC schools wanted to make sure their schools never received less than $x million dollars below other conferences then they should have negotiated that into their contract.