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Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 9:50 am
by ousdahl
yeah, who even enjoyed Frank's POY campaign, anyway?
do we really wanna put these guys in a position to decide if 100,000 dollars now is more important?
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:42 am
by TDub
Good lord ous
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:06 am
by ousdahl
sorry bro.
it's not like I can do much else today. supposed to be in quarantine.
besides, the crooked creek is closed.
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:56 am
by Sparko
I think there could be some interesting compromises--such as putting all the revenue into a trust and allowing all scholarship players to have a share of the money at a later date or an annuity. Look at Harvard--it has a massive income earning trust. Kansas, Kentucky and Blue Bloods could certainly create a nice trust for athletes. Having them available for endorsements should not be a show-stopper with some revenue sharing. A band member can be a Yamaha Sponsored player right now. The current system was designed at a time where the rich sent legacy children to frats and poor athletes had to be content remain poor or accept under the table help.
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:58 am
by Cascadia
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:29 am
pdub wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2021 6:30 am
It’s not stupid or unrealistic.
A. There are car dealerships that spend that much on ad campaigns.
B. Cascadia is talking about avenues where boosters can funnel money. 30 wealthy people donate 10k at the local Ford dealerships “Spring extravaganza!” a private event. Now that dealership can have Miles McBride show up for an afternoon, speak a line, and collecting.
And then on top of that, you’ll have the big boys, Nikes, Gatorade’s, State Farm’s, with school allegiances. And you’ll say it’s happening now—but I think it will happen much more if only because its against the rules now so you get caught, you are punished.
I want college sports to be not that.
We can start another pro league with younger players if that’s what people want.
None of that is happening for the #75 recruit in the country (his ranking choice, not mine).
That type of thing would be realistic for 10-15 recruits per year. The same ones already taking money from our lead recruiter adidas. The same ones taking loans/advances from agents.
Attention class:
Nobody doubles down on dumb like Illy. Welcome to his Master Class.
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:04 pm
by Sparko
Illy has an odd take that does not consider the totality of the billions of dollars the modern game generates. And KU is as much responsible for forming the concept of a large post-season championship tournament as any school. The NCAA owes a debt to KU it cannot ever repay. Or acknowledge.
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:58 pm
by Cascadia
Well, to be fair, illy’s just not very smart. Kind of a given around here
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:03 am
by Cascadia
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:43 am
by Deleted User 89
dumb
(which is exactly what hs-aged kids will end up being if they go that route)
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:49 am
by holidaysmore
"Playing college basketball is great for some," Ryan said. "But let's recognize the fact that they play over 10,000 hours of basketball for free."
Again, pet peeve, but they are NOT playing for free, Ryan.
This league sounds fine and dandy and good for players to have options but how are they going to make money? Who is going to watch this? What is the long term stability of this option? If, or when the NCAA adapts to the current times, which it will because it will have to this league instantly becomes obsolete.
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:53 am
by Deleted User 89
are parents really going to let their kids forgo a basic high school education for a few dollars?
just seems like such a bad idea
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:26 am
by ousdahl
They say only up to 30 players, right?
Who do they compete against?
And are high schools as NCAAish about eligibility as the NCAA is? Like if a kid tried to be a part of this league but didn’t make the cut, does that mean he can never be eligible for high school again?
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:59 am
by Cascadia
I think this league will likely target 16/17 year olds from poor backgrounds with ~$80k a year. They’ll play glorified AAU ball for 2-3 years and a handful might make the NBA.
But, this is what you get with the current NCAA and NBA models. Both parties share the blame
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:05 am
by pdub
Not sure what the problem is, kids are getting paid, like a lot of you want.
The poor 16, 17 year olds out there, playing for free, being exploited.
'sides, education is worthless, it's all about the benjamins.
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:05 am
by NewtonHawk11
Cascadia wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:59 am
I think this league will likely target 16/17 year olds from poor backgrounds with ~$80k a year. They’ll play glorified AAU ball for 2-3 years and a handful might make the NBA.
But, this is what you get with the current NCAA and NBA models. Both parties share the blame
I think the NCAA shoulders about 80% of the blame. NBA could be better to allow kids to just go straight to NBA from HS and not bend corners. But if NCAA does likeness and pay their athlete-students, you would have a better product on the court and a product that is far for all the athletes who just have to attend a few classes a semester.
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:29 am
by PhDhawk
Cascadia wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:59 am
I think this league will likely target 16/17 year olds from poor backgrounds with ~$80k a year. They’ll play glorified AAU ball for 2-3 years and a handful might make the NBA.
But, this is what you get with the current NCAA and NBA models. Both parties share the blame
Good, I've always felt like HS's just exploid poor predominantly black students.
They charge $3 a game and keep ALL that money. Not a nickel goes to the HS athlete...and they get nothing in return. I mean, who the fuck wants a HS diploma if you can ball? amirite... I mean, we force them to go to HS and then exploit them. It's akin to indentured servitude. They're totally being exploited here.
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:41 am
by pdub
Beat you to it - but you really romanced it up.
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:42 am
by Deleted User 89
i do miss those concession stand nachos we used to get at HS ball games
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:42 am
by pdub
You could get em at Allen Fieldhouse too before they put that damn video bored in.
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:43 am
by Cascadia
Wow, some of you are really triggered. I never said anyone was being exploited.