Kansas Crimson

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:21 pm So glad noncon is over. And I'll be glad when conference is over.

I predicted that this year's regular season would be pretty boring and so far it has been.

Mjl wrote: ↑Sat Dec 29, 2018 6:55 pm

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:21 pm So glad noncon is over. And I'll be glad when conference is over.

I predicted that this year's regular season would be pretty boring and so far it has been.

I'm not and won't be. You prefer offseason?

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:35 pm

Mjl wrote: ↑Sat Dec 29, 2018 6:55 pm

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:21 pm So glad noncon is over. And I'll be glad when conference is over.

I predicted that this year's regular season would be pretty boring and so far it has been.

I'm not and won't be. You prefer offseason?

In a year like this, only postseason matters. You know that. Bill knows that. We all know that.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:35 pm

Mjl wrote: ↑Sat Dec 29, 2018 6:55 pm

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:21 pm So glad noncon is over. And I'll be glad when conference is over.

I predicted that this year's regular season would be pretty boring and so far it has been.

I'm not and won't be. You prefer offseason?

In a year like this, only postseason matters. You know that. Bill knows that. We all know that.

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 6:28 am I hardly feel like this is a "national title or bust" type team/season.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:36 am

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 6:28 am I hardly feel like this is a "national title or bust" type team/season.

That could be b/c you’re not very bright.

We are the preseason #1 team. We just went 11-1 in the toughest noncon schedule in the country. We’re headed straight for the #1 overall seed. What the hell do you think the expectations are? A year ago everyone was losing their damn minds b/c we lost 3 games at home, yet it still would have been disappointing to not make a Final Four. This is Kansas, not some scrub program that hangs banners for tournament appearances.

Every year you act like getting past the first weekend is gravy on top. Then out of the other side of your mouth say that college b-ball is down. That’s complete bullshit. Our fanbase is so weird.

twocoach wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:08 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:36 am

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 6:28 am I hardly feel like this is a "national title or bust" type team/season.

That could be b/c you’re not very bright.

We are the preseason #1 team. We just went 11-1 in the toughest noncon schedule in the country. We’re headed straight for the #1 overall seed. What the hell do you think the expectations are? A year ago everyone was losing their damn minds b/c we lost 3 games at home, yet it still would have been disappointing to not make a Final Four. This is Kansas, not some scrub program that hangs banners for tournament appearances.

Every year you act like getting past the first weekend is gravy on top. Then out of the other side of your mouth say that college b-ball is down. That’s complete bullshit. Our fanbase is so weird.

I don't think anything past the first weekend is gravy; I just don't think that the only thing that matters is the postseason result. Some fans such as myself still enjoy the content of the regular season, regardless of when the season ends. I love to go watch games with my family. I love to watch games on TV at my house. I love to follow the success and failures of the other Big 12 teams once conference play starts. If we lose in the 2nd Round I don't suddenly retroactively hate all that.

So maybe the postseason result is all that matters to you but it's not all that matters to me. The journey is more to me than the destination; the experience more important than the result. But that's me.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:35 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:08 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:36 am

That could be b/c you’re not very bright.

We are the preseason #1 team. We just went 11-1 in the toughest noncon schedule in the country. We’re headed straight for the #1 overall seed. What the hell do you think the expectations are? A year ago everyone was losing their damn minds b/c we lost 3 games at home, yet it still would have been disappointing to not make a Final Four. This is Kansas, not some scrub program that hangs banners for tournament appearances.

Every year you act like getting past the first weekend is gravy on top. Then out of the other side of your mouth say that college b-ball is down. That’s complete bullshit. Our fanbase is so weird.

I don't think anything past the first weekend is gravy; I just don't think that the only thing that matters is the postseason result. Some fans such as myself still enjoy the content of the regular season, regardless of when the season ends. I love to go watch games with my family. I love to watch games on TV at my house. I love to follow the success and failures of the other Big 12 teams once conference play starts. If we lose in the 2nd Round I don't suddenly retroactively hate all that.

So maybe the postseason result is all that matters to you but it's not all that matters to me. The journey is more to me than the destination; the experience more important than the result. But that's me.

I’ve been to AFH something like 150 times. Been to preseason tournaments, champions classics, road games, what feels like a dozen Big 12 tournaments. Never once did I say that shouldn’t be enjoyable.

But in every year, regular season results pale in comparison in importance to the National postseason. And some years are different than others. This is a year where regular seasons results are so minuscule compared to what we do in the postseason. Before the season we were favored in every single game we play this regular season and that is going to stay true. How many times has that happened? Maybe 3? Regular season wins mean nothing compared to losses this year. And the entirety of this season will be almost exclusively judged on whether or not we raise individual banners on the East and South rafters.

You’re not wrong to enjoy the ride but the expectations here make regular seasons like this one not very intriguing. It’s not that this regular season doesn’t matter at all, it just doesn’t matter even close to as much as the tournament. We’ll still put tiny 2019 iron press letters on the West rafter.

Quite honestly, Self hasn’t performed to seed in the tournament and it’s caused many KU fans to go into a defense mechanism when discussing program and season success.

twocoach wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:06 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:35 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:08 am

I don't think anything past the first weekend is gravy; I just don't think that the only thing that matters is the postseason result. Some fans such as myself still enjoy the content of the regular season, regardless of when the season ends. I love to go watch games with my family. I love to watch games on TV at my house. I love to follow the success and failures of the other Big 12 teams once conference play starts. If we lose in the 2nd Round I don't suddenly retroactively hate all that.

So maybe the postseason result is all that matters to you but it's not all that matters to me. The journey is more to me than the destination; the experience more important than the result. But that's me.

I’ve been to AFH something like 150 times. Been to preseason tournaments, champions classics, road games, what feels like a dozen Big 12 tournaments. Never once did I say that shouldn’t be enjoyable.

But in every year, regular season results pale in comparison in importance to the National postseason. And some years are different than others. This is a year where regular seasons results are so minuscule compared to what we do in the postseason. Before the season we were favored in every single game we play this regular season and that is going to stay true. How many times has that happened? Maybe 3? Regular season wins mean nothing compared to losses this year. And the entirety of this season will be almost exclusively judged on whether or not we raise individual banners on the East and South rafters.

You’re not wrong to enjoy the ride but the expectations here make regular seasons like this one not very intriguing. It’s not that this regular season doesn’t matter at all, it just doesn’t matter even close to as much as the tournament. We’ll still put tiny 2019 iron press letters on the West rafter.

Quite honestly, Self hasn’t performed to seed in the tournament and it’s caused many KU fans to go into a defense mechanism when discussing program and season success.

And that's fine, for you. Just understand that this explanation only applies to you. It's your opinion and how you feel.

Postseason results just aren't the only thing that matter to me as a KU fan. I get the whole "postseason results are more important if you rank all the parts of the season in order of importance" but that is a mechanical exercise devoid of emotion and experience. Each season is more to me than a series of accumulated accomplishments.

20 years from now I will have more of a fond memory of my daughter chasing Dok through the autograph line trying to squeeze in close enough to get a picture than I will of whether or not this team played to seed in the tourney. I win plenty of "whose team is better" arguments against opposing fans on message boards. I think too many fans base their happiness with a season around the impact it has on their interactions with rival fans.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:21 pm So glad noncon is over. And I'll be glad when conference is over.

I predicted that this year's regular season would be pretty boring and so far it has been.

Cascadia wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:38 am Put me in CnB’s camp here.

Of course the regular season matters, it’s what gets you to the post season.

But this year, the regular season is a foregone conclusion. I’ve been saying more months that this years team is a juggernaut.

I won’t say title or bust, but this is a final four or bust year.

Sorry, there is just way too much damn talent to settle for less than that.

Don’t like those standards/expectations? The taters will take you in and you can celebrate a S16 appearance