Kansas Crimson

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:38 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:35 pm

zsn wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:02 am

I don't think that the rise in divorce rate is an accurate representation of lack of marital bliss. The reason divorce rate is higher now that it has been (say, 50 years ago) is because it has become more socially acceptable and women have a way to support themselves better these days, without having to rely on a man to provide that support (from 50 years ago).

Which leads to the rates of spousal/child abuse. I seriously doubt that spousal abuse is any more prevalent now than it was, say, 50-60 years ago. It is certainly more in the open, perhaps based on the reason I stated above - women had little recourse. I will just point to fact that in the age of b-w television spousal abuse was a prominent laugh line in an extremely popular sitcom ("To the moon"; "Right in the kisser") - to be fair, Alice always got him back, but the fact that it was OK to even put that in public demonstrates how "acceptable" such behavior was.

Well as it turns out, my hope is already in full effect. Divorce rates have plummeted in younger generations now that more people are choosing to finish their eduvations and get their careers kick started prior to getting married.

That's an absolutely moronic interpretation of what has happened to marriage.

But that's no shock.

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:03 pm Precisely what y'all had hoped would happen.

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:27 pm it’s only a problem if you’re the husband

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:08 pm marriage doesn’t seem to mean what it used to...feels like a bad thing, but maybe not

lobster wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:50 pm

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:27 pm it’s only a problem if you’re the husband

Those guys might not realize it, but chances are, they are better off. They can go overseas and find a better option.

Those women come with a clock, and if they want kids, it might be impossible. No man wants a 37-year-old feminist.

lobster wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:50 pm

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:27 pm it’s only a problem if you’re the husband

Those guys might not realize it, but chances are, they are better off. They can go overseas and find a better option.

Those women come with a clock, and if they want kids, it might be impossible. No man wants a 37-year-old feminist.

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:38 pm

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:03 pm Precisely what y'all had hoped would happen.

Less people getting married young.
Why? Waiting until after school is done and after careers get started like I said. And yes, there are also less people choosing to get married at all for a huge variety of reasons.

And to try to tie it back to the point of this whole conversation, I don't think these things mean that the American Dream is dying as Tucker Carlson is foolishly trying to claim.

It just means that people are redefining what they consider to be their American Dream. We don't all have to have the homogenous dream. His failure is in calling AN American Dream THE American Dream.

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:29 pm

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:38 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:35 pm
Well as it turns out, my hope is already in full effect. Divorce rates have plummeted in younger generations now that more people are choosing to finish their eduvations and get their careers kick started prior to getting married.

That's an absolutely moronic interpretation of what has happened to marriage.

But that's no shock.

Meh, there is obviously a ton more to it than that but it covers a chunk. You whine that my posts are too long. Now you whine that it doesn't have enough detail. Turns out you just whine.

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:07 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:29 pm

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:38 pm

That's an absolutely moronic interpretation of what has happened to marriage.

But that's no shock.

Meh, there is obviously a ton more to it than that but it covers a chunk. You whine that my posts are too long. Now you whine that it doesn't have enough detail. Turns out you just whine.

I merely told you that you're not very smart.

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:21 pm I wondered which of you children would be the first...

Congratulations?

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:05 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:38 pm

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:03 pm Precisely what y'all had hoped would happen.

Less people getting married young.
Why? Waiting until after school is done and after careers get started like I said. And yes, there are also less people choosing to get married at all for a huge variety of reasons.

And to try to tie it back to the point of this whole conversation, I don't think these things mean that the American Dream is dying as Tucker Carlson is foolishly trying to claim.

It just means that people are redefining what they consider to be their American Dream. We don't all have to have the homogenous dream. His failure is in calling AN American Dream THE American Dream.

uhh...34 isn't exactly young.

As usual, you are missing the point.

jeepinjayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:56 pm

lobster wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:50 pm

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:27 pm it’s only a problem if you’re the husband

Those guys might not realize it, but chances are, they are better off. They can go overseas and find a better option.

Those women come with a clock, and if they want kids, it might be impossible. No man wants a 37-year-old feminist.

JFC

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:07 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:29 pm

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:38 pm

That's an absolutely moronic interpretation of what has happened to marriage.

But that's no shock.

Meh, there is obviously a ton more to it than that but it covers a chunk. You whine that my posts are too long. Now you whine that it doesn't have enough detail. Turns out you just whine.

I didn't whine about anything.

I merely told you that you're not very smart.

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:59 pm

lobster wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:50 pm

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:27 pm it’s only a problem if you’re the husband

Men who think they can order a wife like a car part dont make good husbands to a growing portion of american women.

This
I know about a dozen such couples. In every case, I’d place the men in the relative loser category. In every case, the women are really hard working and usually business minded. These dudes married up in a big way.
your experience may vary

DrPepper wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:00 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:59 pm

lobster wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:50 pm
Men who think they can order a wife like a car part dont make good husbands to a growing portion of american women.

This
I know about a dozen such couples. In every case, I’d place the men in the relative loser category. In every case, the women are really hard working and usually business minded. These dudes married up in a big way.
your experience may vary

I know a few from my days living in Detroit. They are all on wife #2. One has a kid now so she's probably stuck until that kid gets out of high school. The others don't have kids and will probably be on divorce #2 pretty soon.

DrPepper wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:00 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:59 pm

lobster wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:50 pm
Men who think they can order a wife like a car part dont make good husbands to a growing portion of american women.

This
I know about a dozen such couples. In every case, I’d place the men in the relative loser category. In every case, the women are really hard working and usually business minded. These dudes married up in a big way.
your experience may vary

my experience is damn near the complete opposite

jhawks99 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:56 pm Mrs 99 is a 50+ feminist. You're borderline offensive.