Kansas Crimson

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:13 am why is it so hard/difficult to just do the right thing and lead by example?

somebody has to, so why NOT the “greatest country on earth”?

(i know the answer/s)

Because Big Oil pays politicians and they have no interest in seeing their profits reduced.

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:07 am Wasn't part of the reason we exited the agreement because it was somewhat unfair to the United states?

Type "Is the paris climate accord unfair to the US" into google and start reading. There are ample discussions, fact checks, etc...

Simple question to all you conservatives: would you expend less fuel to accomplish a particular task or willingly expend more, because all the liberals tend be generally more fuel-efficient?

Given the way Republican administrations have resorted to borrow-and-spend, I am guessing frugality and efficiency is not one of conservatives' strong suits. You are probably the people who go on the GasBuddy app, select the most expensive location to fill up just to spite the liberals who want to stick it Big Oil

define “unfair”

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:45 am

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:13 am why is it so hard/difficult to just do the right thing and lead by example?

somebody has to, so why NOT the “greatest country on earth”?

(i know the answer/s)

Because Big Oil pays politicians and they have no interest in seeing their profits reduced.

Any democrats taking their money?

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:56 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:45 am

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:13 am why is it so hard/difficult to just do the right thing and lead by example?

somebody has to, so why NOT the “greatest country on earth”?

(i know the answer/s)

Because Big Oil pays politicians and they have no interest in seeing their profits reduced.

Any democrats taking their money?

Party split of monies donated to 2018 congressional candidates by oil companies in 2018 per Opensecrets.org:

GOP: $20,495,624
Dems: $4,387,220

Coal mining, mining, waste management, electric companies, natural gas. All weighted heavily towards supporting GOP candidates. Because they would make more money at the cost of american lives.

#bothsidesdoit

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:10 am #bothsidesdoit

So lazy.

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:13 am

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:10 am #bothsidesdoit

So lazy.

yet so true.

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:20 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:13 am

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:10 am #bothsidesdoit

So lazy.

yet so true.

It's a gross misinterpretation of the facts. Such laziness is how we get to this point of apathy and lack of holding politicians accountable.

It's a lazy attempt at a witty comeback that you think paints someone in a corner when in fact it's just a way to avoid the actual problem.

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:07 am my mistake...cars, as we know them, have to go away

but that includes materials as well as power sources

If you are really serious, then I hope you drive an electric car or at least a hybrid, or maybe ride a bike.

Do you think GOP took more from those interest groups than the Dems because the GOP hates the environment or do you think it's probably because those BigOil money groups are located predominately in GOP leaning areas?

dolomite wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:41 am

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:07 am my mistake...cars, as we know them, have to go away

but that includes materials as well as power sources

If you are really serious, then I hope you drive an electric car or at least a hybrid, or maybe ride a bike.

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:23 pm
bought our camry used (~33K miles) and have been quite pleased with it 100K+ miles later

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:35 am why is no cars unrealistic?

maybe you should travel more, experience the world...

That's the point. Other parts of the world don't matter in the discussion of cars. Cars defined the last century and embodied (and still embody, in many cases) the American conception of freedom.

I think Kerouac was shit, but On the Road was the defining book of a generation. Steinbeck won a Pulitzer fro Grapes of Wrath, but didn't win his Nobel until after Travels with Charley. Cars are more a part of American history and culture than guns.

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:37 am

human innovation is an amazing, wondrous thing. it can solve most any problem if only given the opportunity (if we can get out of our own way)

No. It can solve most of our problems when it produces economically viable products that can compete in a free(ish) market.

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:07 am my mistake...cars, as we know them, have to go away

Good luck with that.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:12 am Amember the Paris Agreement?

We’re the ones not following suit.

And yet the only ones whose emissions have gone down.

Yay us!

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:07 am Wasn't part of the reason we exited the agreement because it was somewhat unfair to the United states?

Extremely.

China and India are the problem and they get everything they want...cuz...Western oppression...or something.

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:45 am

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:13 am why is it so hard/difficult to just do the right thing and lead by example?

somebody has to, so why NOT the “greatest country on earth”?

(i know the answer/s)

Because Big Oil pays politicians and they have no interest in seeing their profits reduced.

Holy dumbassery, Batman!

zsn wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:54 am Simple question to all you conservatives: would you expend less fuel to accomplish a particular task or willingly expend more, because all the liberals tend be generally more fuel-efficient?

wut?