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At what point do we say...meh...only wasted the scholly for one year.

I don't think he'd be going if the staff were really working hard to convince him not to.

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:22 pm At what point do we say...meh...only wasted the scholly for one year.

I don't think he'd be going if the staff were really working hard to convince him not to.

Self often seems like a two in the bush is is better than a bird in hand kind of guy, but what would that mean on a team with several available scholarships still available even if Grimes stayed? That Stanley is coming and Self thinks he's better? Or that Braun and McBride (ranked 100+) are better?

Lawson gets drafted in the mid-40's.

Grimes announces. Stanley commits over UCLA and Oregon. Grimes gets told by the NBA that he won't get draft and he needs more development. Grimes pulls out comes back to Kansas. Win-Win.

Damn, we have a rough season coming up if Self doesn't pull off about 4 miracles in the next 2 months.

Wtf?

Cascadia wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2019 4:47 pm I’m actually a little shocked by this. He’s not ready for the NBA. Will probably get a look in the 2nd round though

More than just "not ready", he just doesn't look like a guy that is going to develop a bunch. He was limited physically and mentally with a poor shot, a poor midrange, poor finishing skills at the rim and poor decision making.

Which of course means he'll win NBA Rookie of the Year next year...

said it before and Ill say it again. Quentin Grimes isn't actually good at anything. from an NBA point of view. He is average size, athleticism, shooting, handling, passing, etc. Probably below average toughness and defense.

Is it possible some or even all of those skills could develop? of course. but he better hope a franchise falls in love with his young age and are patient cause 6'5 guards who are average athletes with no strength/niche/skillset dont last very long

all of a sudden i feel less confident about Dotson

I wish him nothing but the best. but this just doesnt seem like a smart decision on his part. I get that he is chasing his dream. but by leaving this early he risks turning a 10 year career into maybe a 2 year skid of bouncing around the G league

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:24 pm all of a sudden i feel less confident about Dotson

The guys who stay and are patient are going to develop. I guess Grimes could eventually find a career overseas and make good money. I just don't think his NBA dream is likely if he takes this path.

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:24 pm all of a sudden i feel less confident about Dotson

Maybe it's a reason to be more confident. Grimes came in as a OAD, played like shit, but left because he had his mind made up. Dotson thought he'd be here a couple years, even though he exceeded expectations, maybe he's mentally set on staying.

Now I sound like lonestar.

I'm wondering who is the person that's going to have the balls to ask Q and/or Self if he thinks/knows he is going to be implicated - and if that's the reason he's running away from KU.

Gutter wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:57 pm I'm wondering who is the person that's going to have the balls to ask Q and/or Self if he thinks/knows he is going to be implicated - and if that's the reason he's running away from KU.

i actually had that thought too

Honestly not sure I want him back if he goes undrafted. He seems to have the Wiggins mentality not the JJ mindset.

PortlandHawk wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:04 pm Honestly not sure I want him back if he goes undrafted. He seems to have the Wiggins mentality not the JJ mindset.

Wiggins mentality would have been fine if he didn't shoot like Garrett. Wiggins would have "seemed" like a different player(eventhough he was great) if he had a point guard.

LVCHawk wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:07 pm

PortlandHawk wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:04 pm Honestly not sure I want him back if he goes undrafted. He seems to have the Wiggins mentality not the JJ mindset.

Wiggins mentality would have been fine if he didn't shoot like Garrett. Wiggins would have "seemed" like a different player(eventhough he was great) if he had a point guard.

I’m being irrational, but my point is: if he doesn’t want to play college ball or be at KU, then goodbye and good riddance. He always seemed to have one foot out the door.

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:22 pm At what point do we say...meh...only wasted the scholly for one year.

I don't think he'd be going if the staff were really working hard to convince him not to.

Uh huh. Ask yourself, why do so many Dook and UNC star players stick around for 2-3 years and win championships and KU players can't wait to get out of Dodge?

shindig wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:31 pm Uh huh. Ask yourself, why do so many Dook and UNC star players stick around for 2-3 years and win championships and KU players can't wait to get out of Dodge?

Because K is the devil and Roy is a manipulator.

LVCHawk wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:35 pm

shindig wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:31 pm Uh huh. Ask yourself, why do so many Dook and UNC star players stick around for 2-3 years and win championships and KU players can't wait to get out of Dodge?

Because K is the devil and Roy is a manipulator.

And Self is what? "We good"

shindig wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:42 pm

LVCHawk wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:35 pm

shindig wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:31 pm Uh huh. Ask yourself, why do so many Dook and UNC star players stick around for 2-3 years and win championships and KU players can't wait to get out of Dodge?

Because K is the devil and Roy is a manipulator.

And Self is what? "We good"

I think Self feels it's better for everyone if a player does what they want to do. If they want to leave he gets them the info they need. If they want to come back, he figures something out. Roy probably looks at his kids all teary-eyed and lays the guilt down.