Iraqi militiamen breach U.S. embassy

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jeepinjayhawk wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:40 pmExactly.
Your work here is done.
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Feral wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:08 pm
jeepinjayhawk wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:40 pmExactly.
Your work here is done.
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HouseDivided wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:01 pm
jeepinjayhawk wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2020 4:44 pm
twocoach wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2020 4:32 pm
Good grief. Our neighborhood block party gets all those things together with 3 phone calls and about $100. Baghdad is a city of more than 6 million; it isnt some mud hut village in the mountains of Afghanistan.
Shhhh..pipe down.

I am trying to hear how this is Hillary's fault.
Hey, at least Pompeo got troops in there and prevented loss of life. Dowdy sat around and watched people who were supposedly her friends die.
Well if preventing loss of life is important, then you must be SO pissed about Dowdy letting toddlers die in cages at the...nm thinking of someone else.
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ousdahl wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:51 am
HouseDivided wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:01 pm
jeepinjayhawk wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2020 4:44 pm

Shhhh..pipe down.

I am trying to hear how this is Hillary's fault.
Hey, at least Pompeo got troops in there and prevented loss of life. Dowdy sat around and watched people who were supposedly her friends die.
Well if preventing loss of life is important, then you must be SO pissed about Dowdy letting toddlers die in cages at the...nm thinking of someone else.
Cages built and sanctioned by The Kenyan Muslim?
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Should we consider it a sign of progress that you didn't put "knee grow" at the end of your last post?
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zsn wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:41 pm Should we consider it a sign of progress that you didn't put "knee grow" at the end of your last post?
If we could implement a sarcasm font, I could put "Kenyan Muslim" in it. Would that make it better for you?
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So what Trump is doing at the border is OK, cuz Obama started it?

I guess it’s also Obama’s fault that kids are dying of the flu...if only the knee grow would allow them to be vaccinated!
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ousdahl wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 1:39 pm So what Trump is doing at the border is OK, cuz Obama started it?

I guess it’s also Obama’s fault that kids are dying of the flu...if only the knee grow would allow them to be vaccinated!
I don't have a problem with President Trump's border policy because it is an attempt to address laws being broken. It is essentially the fault of the parents who are attempting to circumvent our immigration policy for putting their children in that position. I don't understand the flu reference, so I can't comment.
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HouseDivided wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:36 pm
ousdahl wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 1:39 pm So what Trump is doing at the border is OK, cuz Obama started it?

I guess it’s also Obama’s fault that kids are dying of the flu...if only the knee grow would allow them to be vaccinated!
I don't have a problem with President Trump's border policy because it is an attempt to address laws being broken. It is essentially the fault of the parents who are attempting to circumvent our immigration policy for putting their children in that position. I don't understand the flu reference, so I can't comment.
I agree that a portion of his policy is about addressing laws being broken. But many of the practices that he has enacted (turning people away at legal border crossings) are not and in fact, they are forcing people who are trying to cross legally into situations where they resort to illegal crossings. That is the biggest problem I have with what he is doing down there.
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twocoach wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:43 pm
HouseDivided wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:36 pm
ousdahl wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 1:39 pm So what Trump is doing at the border is OK, cuz Obama started it?

I guess it’s also Obama’s fault that kids are dying of the flu...if only the knee grow would allow them to be vaccinated!
I don't have a problem with President Trump's border policy because it is an attempt to address laws being broken. It is essentially the fault of the parents who are attempting to circumvent our immigration policy for putting their children in that position. I don't understand the flu reference, so I can't comment.
I agree that a portion of his policy is about addressing laws being broken. But many of the practices that he has enacted (turning people away at legal border crossings) are not and in fact, they are forcing people who are trying to cross legally into situations where they resort to illegal crossings. That is the biggest problem I have with what he is doing down there.
I don't understand the legality of what you are describing. You legally immigrate through proper channels, not crossing over fences or across rivers. It happens in an office with paperwork, not outdoors.
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HouseDivided wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:58 pm
twocoach wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:43 pm
I agree that a portion of his policy is about addressing laws being broken. But many of the practices that he has enacted (turning people away at legal border crossings) are not and in fact, they are forcing people who are trying to cross legally into situations where they resort to illegal crossings. That is the biggest problem I have with what he is doing down there.
I don't understand the legality of what you are describing. You legally immigrate through proper channels, not crossing over fences or across rivers. It happens in an office with paperwork, not outdoors.
What part of "legal border crossings" do you not understand? In many instances these legal border crossings are outdoors, or at least a major portion of the facilities are outdoors. Look up images for San Ysidro or Ambassador Bridge border crossings if you don't believe me :)
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zsn wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:15 pm
HouseDivided wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:58 pm
twocoach wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:43 pm
I agree that a portion of his policy is about addressing laws being broken. But many of the practices that he has enacted (turning people away at legal border crossings) are not and in fact, they are forcing people who are trying to cross legally into situations where they resort to illegal crossings. That is the biggest problem I have with what he is doing down there.
I don't understand the legality of what you are describing. You legally immigrate through proper channels, not crossing over fences or across rivers. It happens in an office with paperwork, not outdoors.
What part of "legal border crossings" do you not understand? In many instances these legal border crossings are outdoors, or at least a major portion of the facilities are outdoors. Look up images for San Ysidro or Ambassador Bridge border crossings if you don't believe me :)
I assume there are actual Border Authority offices at these locations where one would go in and officially seek asylum rather than just disappearing into the border town with "good intentions" of taking care of the legalities later on.
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HouseDivided wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:58 pm
twocoach wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:43 pm
HouseDivided wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:36 pm

I don't have a problem with President Trump's border policy because it is an attempt to address laws being broken. It is essentially the fault of the parents who are attempting to circumvent our immigration policy for putting their children in that position. I don't understand the flu reference, so I can't comment.
I agree that a portion of his policy is about addressing laws being broken. But many of the practices that he has enacted (turning people away at legal border crossings) are not and in fact, they are forcing people who are trying to cross legally into situations where they resort to illegal crossings. That is the biggest problem I have with what he is doing down there.
I don't understand the legality of what you are describing. You legally immigrate through proper channels, not crossing over fences or across rivers. It happens in an office with paperwork, not outdoors.
Not if you are not allowed access to those offices in violation of international refugee laws.

Asylum seekers are supposed to be allowed to cross our borders at legal crossing points of entry and then request asylum. We are supposed receive these refugees and refer them to an interview with an asylum officer, who assess their request.

Trump is basically shoving them back to Mexico and encouraging Mexico, a country rife with it's own corruption and mess, to deal with them.
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twocoach wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:50 pm
HouseDivided wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:58 pm
twocoach wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:43 pm

I agree that a portion of his policy is about addressing laws being broken. But many of the practices that he has enacted (turning people away at legal border crossings) are not and in fact, they are forcing people who are trying to cross legally into situations where they resort to illegal crossings. That is the biggest problem I have with what he is doing down there.
I don't understand the legality of what you are describing. You legally immigrate through proper channels, not crossing over fences or across rivers. It happens in an office with paperwork, not outdoors.
Not if you are not allowed access to those offices in violation of international refugee laws.

Asylum seekers are supposed to be allowed to cross our borders at legal crossing points of entry and then request asylum. We are supposed receive these refugees and refer them to an interview with an asylum officer, who assess their request.

Trump is basically shoving them back to Mexico and encouraging Mexico, a country rife with it's own corruption and mess, to deal with them.
Aren't those laws being abused, though, by people claiming to be seeking asylum and then just staying here illegally?
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HouseDivided wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:56 pm
twocoach wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:50 pm
HouseDivided wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:58 pm

I don't understand the legality of what you are describing. You legally immigrate through proper channels, not crossing over fences or across rivers. It happens in an office with paperwork, not outdoors.
Not if you are not allowed access to those offices in violation of international refugee laws.

Asylum seekers are supposed to be allowed to cross our borders at legal crossing points of entry and then request asylum. We are supposed receive these refugees and refer them to an interview with an asylum officer, who assess their request.

Trump is basically shoving them back to Mexico and encouraging Mexico, a country rife with it's own corruption and mess, to deal with them.
Aren't those laws being abused, though, by people claiming to be seeking asylum and then just staying here illegally?
Then spend the "wall" money to create more American jobs by hiring more case workers and asylum officers to better process the requesters.
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seahawk wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2020 9:25 am So, did Trump promise John Bolton a war with Iran if only he won't testify?
Repeating this.
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Seems that this whole thing just go escalated.
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Trump needs a war, and one way or the other, he is going to get one
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jeepinjayhawk wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:44 pm Trump needs a war, and one way or the other, he is going to get one
How so? I don't think they're popular anymore.

I wouldn't be surprised if this is his reaction to the Ayatollah's tweet, which has always been the most dangerous thing about him.
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This thread is comedy gold.





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