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Re: The Japhy Challenge
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:21 pm
by Deleted User 141
japhy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:02 pm
Gqcolorado wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:09 pm
The initial 8% premise is flawed. Any restaurant that makes servers/staff ring food on their card/number/is and assigns those sales to the employee in the form described are breaking the law. The employees should have cried foul from day one.
If that has changed that is great, in the past my understanding was if there was no tip added to a credit card then the assumption was an 8% minimum was added for cash tip to each member of wait staff and this was used to calculate tax withholdings regardless of what they filed for tips at end of shift. During the recession my wife was working as a waitress when I met her and she was getting this withheld at the restaurant she worked at on the Plaza. They were told it was an IRS directive. So any time she did not get a tip on the credit card she got taxes withheld to account for 8% min of the check as if it was tip income. If over time she got more than the 8% and didn't report it all, she could balance it out. But during the recession there were a lot of cheap ass people eating out and stiffing the wait staff. There were times when the staff did not get 8% overall in tips and they had taxes withheld on income they did not receive.
There has never been anything other than an official ‘claim all of them’. But in things like to go etc, businesses have ‘Togo, togo2, or whatever’ type dummy servers to absorb these sales. When tips are distributed to employees, they go on their pay for sure and then are their responsibility. I can’t state that no where does things the way you described, but that method is fairly dated as far as the mainstream goes.
Re: The Japhy Challenge
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:22 pm
by Deleted User 141
Or it should be I should state. I worked several places in last ten years that had abolished this practice. Litigation and such.
Re: The Japhy Challenge
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:37 am
by pdub
Sounds like a good plan.
Won't be doing carry out if I don't have to though.
Dining in ( the horror! ) if I'm allowed.
If I leave a 50 dollar bill at the bar, is it still japhy's challenge?
Re: The Japhy Challenge
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:17 am
by japhy
The challenge is pretty simple, be good to the people who need your help. You decide how you do it.
Re: The Japhy Challenge
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:24 am
by ousdahl
If that challenge was really so simple, all the assholes in the world would already be extinct.
Re: The Japhy Challenge
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:26 am
by Deleted User 289
japhy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:17 am
The challenge is pretty simple, be good to the people who need your help. You decide how you do it.
It's not a "challenge" for me but I accept it and will continue to try and follow through on it.
Re: The Japhy Challenge
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:34 am
by Deleted User 141
pdub wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:37 am
Sounds like a good plan.
Won't be doing carry out if I don't have to though.
Dining in ( the horror! ) if I'm allowed.
If I leave a 50 dollar bill at the bar, is it still japhy's challenge?
All of the companies had added ‘no contact’ deliveries where driver should just drop at your door. Also, drovers can request to simply leave your food at door, so if you order, and driver contacts you suggesting a drop off spot, don’t be shocked at the lack of customer service. It’s the new normal right now.
Re: The Japhy Challenge
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:09 am
by chiknbut
ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:24 am
If that challenge was really so simple, all the assholes in the world would already be extinct.
It had to be said.
Re: The Japhy Challenge
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:43 am
by jfish26
A few things on the topic:
* Remember that chains employ local people, too, who live largely on tips, and
* Remember that lots of chains are actually locally-owned franchises.
Re: The Japhy Challenge
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:51 am
by pdub
So you're saying let's all go to Olive Garden.
Re: The Japhy Challenge
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:54 am
by jfish26
The OG doesn't franchise.
Re: The Japhy Challenge
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:58 am
by pdub
That's because it's just one big family.
Re: The Japhy Challenge
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:26 am
by Deleted User 141
OG doesn’t do delivery either. I would bet they are scrambling to get on door dash and grub hub right now.
Local restaurant had a pallet of to go boxes from sams yesterday. Was the last of their to go boxes....so their will be that as well as those supply lines potentially become tight.
Thoughts on it were, wow, that’s smart, but really also a total cunt move. My overwhelming thought is at what point do we stop looking out for only our own good and realize it needs to be shared with others? This is similar to Ousdahl’s statement. But the ultimate question to me right now.
Re: The Japhy Challenge
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:28 am
by Deleted User 141
If you order from delivery services, tip in app. Drivers want to know they are getting a decent amount up front.
If you read that and think, ‘they should be thankful to still have a job while others are unemployed’, you are a cunt (that’s just my opinion).
Also: cash is fucking dirty. Direct deposits are not.