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Speaking of p traps, the plumber who installed mine in my main bathroom when this house was built installed it as a piece that can't be taken apart like a standard p trap. The PVC is fused as one big unit. WTF.

Gqcolorado wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 2:19 pm

TDub wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:56 pm

Gqcolorado wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:15 pm

I think youre gonna be cursing the p trap. With no back pressure youre gonna be showering standing in puddles of your own shit/shitwater on day 2.

If it's a p trap, shit should go through it ok.

Yeah, but how do you get the poop through the tub drain? Mine has a + in the middle. I guess you just remove it or quish it down?

Of all the bathroom options, the toilet is the only one that is most convenient when you wake up early and have to go. No other furnishing satisfies such an immediate concern, when potentially every second counts.

Gqcolorado wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 2:19 pm

TDub wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:56 pm

Gqcolorado wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:15 pm

I think youre gonna be cursing the p trap. With no back pressure youre gonna be showering standing in puddles of your own shit/shitwater on day 2.

If it's a p trap, shit should go through it ok.

Not without sufficient water volume/pressure to push it up and out the otherside.

TDub wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 2:49 pm

Gqcolorado wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 2:19 pm

TDub wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:56 pm

I think youre gonna be cursing the p trap. With no back pressure youre gonna be showering standing in puddles of your own shit/shitwater on day 2.

If it's a p trap, shit should go through it ok.

Not without sufficient water volume/pressure to push it up and out the otherside.

Mine is generally explosive, so I’ll be ok.

Grandma didn’t say that the other contraptions wouldn’t be there. Just the greatest one. In any case, if the shower wasn’t there a bucket and a large mug would suffice to take a “shower” as they do on many parts of the world. Not having a toilet is a bigger problem.

I asked best BATHROOM invention. It was a really bad question. I apologize.
So many factors not considered when I originally wrote/typed the question.

You have a kitchen sink and a mirror - You're good to go. Bathroom sink not important.

You have a bucket, you can piss and shit in a bucket. Toilet not needed. Or if you live in a house with a big yard.... Or if you live near an outhouse...... Or.......

I live in an apartment. Hard to bathe without a shower. If I lived in a house and I had a hose with running water, don't need a shower in my home.

I'd much rather shower with a hose than shit in a bucket.

yup.

even a sponge bath in the kitchen sink seems like it would be easier to get used to and fewer potential issues than shitting down the drain.

pdub wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 2:24 pm Speaking of p traps, the plumber who installed mine in my main bathroom when this house was built installed it as a piece that can't be taken apart like a standard p trap. The PVC is fused as one big unit. WTF.

What? You cant fuse PVC, sure its not a welded steel trap? Also, if its just PVC, then cut above and below the trap and reinstall with sharkbites or splices.

shindig wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 2:26 pm

Gqcolorado wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 2:19 pm

TDub wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:56 pm

I think youre gonna be cursing the p trap. With no back pressure youre gonna be showering standing in puddles of your own shit/shitwater on day 2.

If it's a p trap, shit should go through it ok.

Yeah, but how do you get the poop through the tub drain? Mine has a + in the middle. I guess you just remove it or quish it down?

i suppose enough water running over it would break it down like erosion.

pdub wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 5:48 pm I'd much rather shower with a hose than shit in a bucket.

Me too but at this very moment one would be simple for me to do and the other would be extremely difficult.
Granted I would have to dispose of the bucket but I could throw a towel in it, put a garbage bag over it, and throw it down the trash shoot.
I don't have a hose in my apartment. I would have to take the elevator to the rooftop or ground floor, somewhere somehow find a hose and a faucet, etc., etc., etc.

TDub wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:29 pm

pdub wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 2:24 pm Speaking of p traps, the plumber who installed mine in my main bathroom when this house was built installed it as a piece that can't be taken apart like a standard p trap. The PVC is fused as one big unit. WTF.

What? You cant fuse PVC, sure its not a welded steel trap? Also, if its just PVC, then cut above and below the trap and reinstall with sharkbites or splices.

Fused the wrong word I suppose.
Just already built/molded as one solid unit instead of something you can take apart with a channel lock. I’m a sense, I can’t get the “p” off.

A snake did the trick but before I bought the snake I tried to just disconnect the p and it was impossible.

Grandma wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:23 pm

pdub wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 5:48 pm I'd much rather shower with a hose than shit in a bucket.

Me too but at this very moment one would be simple for me to do and the other would be extremely difficult.
Granted I would have to dispose of the bucket but I could throw a towel in it, put a garbage bag over it, and throw it down the trash shoot.
I don't have a hose in my apartment. I would have to take the elevator to the rooftop or ground floor, somewhere somehow find a hose and a faucet, etc., etc., etc.

Well if there aren’t any toilets invented at all, that trash shoot is going to be miserable. Your HOA will go up. I guess your water bill will go down though.

pdub wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:00 am

TDub wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:29 pm

pdub wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 2:24 pm Speaking of p traps, the plumber who installed mine in my main bathroom when this house was built installed it as a piece that can't be taken apart like a standard p trap. The PVC is fused as one big unit. WTF.

What? You cant fuse PVC, sure its not a welded steel trap? Also, if its just PVC, then cut above and below the trap and reinstall with sharkbites or splices.

Fused the wrong word I suppose.
Just already built/molded as one solid unit instead of something you can take apart with a channel lock. I’m a sense, I can’t get the “p” off.

A snake did the trick but before I bought the snake I tried to just disconnect the p and it was impossible.

Not sure if this is related to me working from home the last 3 months, but I've had multiple plumbing issues that have cost me over a $1K to fix since I started working from home. The first was a clogged kitchen sink that took 3 different guys to snake all the way through (and it was the owner that finally got it cleared). Then a few weeks later, my mixer valve in my shower quit working, so I bought a new MOEN set and the plumber sweated it in. And just recently, my tub drain started dripping underneath from a galvanized drain and was replaced with PVC. I can do some plumbing, but I hate it, and I usually get frustrated trying to figure out what pieces I need.

My brother just had to spend a fortune replacing galvanized pipes to PVC in his home.

I hate plumbing, but it saves a shitload of money if you are capable of doing some of the more basic shit. Sweating copper is pretty easy, but a big fuckin problem if you overheat it or dont completely seal the pipe on the backside. Pressure test everything before you close the wall up.

pdub wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:33 am My brother just had to spend a fortune replacing galvanized pipes to PVC in his home.

I spent a fortune 9 years ago when I first bought the house (built in 1928) to replace all the galvanized hot/cold water pipes to copper. Pretty much everything else is now PVC. I do have the original cast iron stack that I will probably have to replace at some point to PVC, but that's going to be a big project I imagine.

TDub wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:45 am I hate plumbing, but it saves a shitload of money if you are capable of doing some of the more basic shit. Sweating copper is pretty easy, but a big fuckin problem if you overheat it or dont completely seal the pipe on the backside. Pressure test everything before you close the wall up.

I youtubed it and watched several videos and even bought a small blowtorch, but was afraid I would jack the new mixer valve up or start a fire..lol. I watched the plumber do it and it doesn't look that hard. Maybe next time..