Kansas Crimson

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2023 12:41 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:58 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2023 9:03 am

Satanist pedophile child traffickers telling you that they're not Satanist pedophile child traffickers, but that those who accuse them of being Satanist pedophile child traffickers are actually the Satanist pedophile child traffickers.

Sounds about right. John 8:44-45.

Congrats on tying yourself up in your own pretzel logic. Do you even know what point you were trying to make?

It's a movie made to exploit the right's current hysteria level so that rich people can make even more money. Then there is the lower level of parasites that generate social media content to spoon feed the hysterics to the right over and over so they can leech some money off the revenue stream as it flows past them.

That's your interpretation of the motivations for making the movie - completely different from the stated motivations of Tim Ballard and Jim Caviezel, both of whom risked a great deal personally and professionally to create, produce, and release the film. It comes as no surprise to me that evil, corrupt people and organizations would use lies and slander to thwart their cause.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2023 12:44 pm

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2023 12:41 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:58 am

Congrats on tying yourself up in your own pretzel logic. Do you even know what point you were trying to make?

It's a movie made to exploit the right's current hysteria level so that rich people can make even more money. Then there is the lower level of parasites that generate social media content to spoon feed the hysterics to the right over and over so they can leech some money off the revenue stream as it flows past them.

That's your interpretation of the motivations for making the movie - completely different from the stated motivations of Tim Ballard and Jim Caviezel, both of whom risked a great deal personally and professionally to create, produce, and release the film. It comes as no surprise to me that evil, corrupt people and organizations would use lies and slander to thwart their cause.

I feel like putting your confidence in the "stated motivations of Tim Ballard and Jim Caviezel" is about as sound logically as saying you were a great free throw shooter in high school and so this carnival game will be a cinch.

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2023 12:49 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2023 12:44 pm

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2023 12:41 pm

That's your interpretation of the motivations for making the movie - completely different from the stated motivations of Tim Ballard and Jim Caviezel, both of whom risked a great deal personally and professionally to create, produce, and release the film. It comes as no surprise to me that evil, corrupt people and organizations would use lies and slander to thwart their cause.

I feel like putting your confidence in the "stated motivations of Tim Ballard and Jim Caviezel" is about as sound logically as saying you were a great free throw shooter in high school and so this carnival game will be a cinch.

What harm can come of it? A very real problem is being brought into the public eye and an organization that does a lot of good is benefiting from it. The only complaints I have seen seem to be that there is some perceived level of hyperbole, which is a subjective criticism.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2023 1:14 pm

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2023 12:49 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2023 12:44 pm

I feel like putting your confidence in the "stated motivations of Tim Ballard and Jim Caviezel" is about as sound logically as saying you were a great free throw shooter in high school and so this carnival game will be a cinch.

What harm can come of it? A very real problem is being brought into the public eye and an organization that does a lot of good is benefiting from it. The only complaints I have seen seem to be that there is some perceived level of hyperbole, which is a subjective criticism.

Lots and lots of harm can come from inducing moral panics by hyperbolic fear porn.

* Scarce law enforcement and prosecutorial resources can be used inefficiently.
* Real victims can be retraumatized over and over again.
* Rubes can become victims of grift.
* The media's attention can be diverted away from other areas worthy of reporting and analysis.
* Tax fraud can be perpetrated on all of us through inappropriate 501(c)(3) and like treatment.
* Rubes can be encouraged to pursue vigilante justice (in which they endanger themselves and others).

And so on.

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2023 1:34 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2023 1:14 pm

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2023 12:49 pm

What harm can come of it? A very real problem is being brought into the public eye and an organization that does a lot of good is benefiting from it. The only complaints I have seen seem to be that there is some perceived level of hyperbole, which is a subjective criticism.

Lots and lots of harm can come from inducing moral panics by hyperbolic fear porn.

* Scarce law enforcement and prosecutorial resources can be used inefficiently.
* Real victims can be retraumatized over and over again.
* Rubes can become victims of grift.
* The media's attention can be diverted away from other areas worthy of reporting and analysis.
* Tax fraud can be perpetrated on all of us through inappropriate 501(c)(3) and like treatment.
* Rubes can be encouraged to pursue vigilante justice (in which they endanger themselves and others).

And so on.

Thank God people like you are around to determine what all of us morons should and should not see and hear. It would be a shame if people couldn't focus on all of the causes that our intellectual and moral superiors deem important or if they gave their money to a cause that you deemed unworthy. It's almost as if certain people should just control the way the rest of us think, use our time, and spend our money. There's a name for that . . .right on the tip of my tongue . . .

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2023 1:41 pm

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2023 1:34 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2023 1:14 pm

Lots and lots of harm can come from inducing moral panics by hyperbolic fear porn.

* Scarce law enforcement and prosecutorial resources can be used inefficiently.
* Real victims can be retraumatized over and over again.
* Rubes can become victims of grift.
* The media's attention can be diverted away from other areas worthy of reporting and analysis.
* Tax fraud can be perpetrated on all of us through inappropriate 501(c)(3) and like treatment.
* Rubes can be encouraged to pursue vigilante justice (in which they endanger themselves and others).

And so on.

Thank God people like you are around to determine what all of us morons should and should not see and hear. It would be a shame if people couldn't focus on all of the causes that our intellectual and moral superiors deem important or if they gave their money to a cause that you deemed unworthy. It's almost as if certain people should just control the way the rest of us think, use our time, and spend our money. There's a name for that . . .right on the tip of my tongue . . .

Why go from 0-60 in 2.8 seconds?

No one is telling you what you can or can't see or hear. Or how you should think, use your time or spend your money.

But yeah, if you say something dumb like you'll simply take grifters, fabulists, hucksters and open conspiracists at their word vis a vis their motivations in what is a moneymaking enterprise (possibly among other things)...getting called out for the silliness should not be a surprise.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2023 1:51 pm I'm sorry, taking grifters, fabulists, hucksters and open conspiracists at their word vis a vis their motivations in what is a moneymaking enterprise (possibly among other things) is objectively silly. Silly in black and white.

Has nothing to do with party affiliation; RFK Jr. is running as a Democrat and, being a noted fabulist and open conspiracist, he's getting shredded by Democrats vis a vis his motivations.

KUTradition wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2023 2:01 pm the gullible throwing a tantrum because they’re being called gullible

lol

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2023 2:43 pm

KUTradition wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2023 2:01 pm the gullible throwing a tantrum because they’re being called gullible

lol

The arrogant doubling down on their arrogance because they’re being called out on their arrogance.

lol, indeed.

KUTradition wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2023 2:47 pm i guess you aren’t as smart as i thought…just formally educated (in psychology)

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2023 12:41 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:58 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2023 9:03 am

Satanist pedophile child traffickers telling you that they're not Satanist pedophile child traffickers, but that those who accuse them of being Satanist pedophile child traffickers are actually the Satanist pedophile child traffickers.

Sounds about right. John 8:44-45.

Congrats on tying yourself up in your own pretzel logic. Do you even know what point you were trying to make?

It's a movie made to exploit the right's current hysteria level so that rich people can make even more money. Then there is the lower level of parasites that generate social media content to spoon feed the hysterics to the right over and over so they can leech some money off the revenue stream as it flows past them.

That's your interpretation of the motivations for making the movie - completely different from the stated motivations of Tim Ballard and Jim Caviezel, both of whom risked a great deal personally and professionally to create, produce, and release the film. It comes as no surprise to me that evil, corrupt people and organizations would use lies and slander to thwart their cause.

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2023 3:47 pm

KUTradition wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2023 2:47 pm i guess you aren’t as smart as i thought…just formally educated (in psychology)

FYP