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Re: Fire Grimes Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 7:46 pm
by ChalkRocker
This thread sux. imo.

Re: Fire Grimes Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 8:17 pm
by pdub
But not as much as Grimes.

Re: Fire Grimes Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 9:00 pm
by hartjack8
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 7:24 pm
Not so dumb question time....
Did KU not realize Grimes wasn't good a BU?
Well Lance The Wizard of Div3 has not hired a coordinator since his days in Div 3. You starting to see the problem. It will come to you eventually.

Re: Fire Grimes Thread

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2024 6:23 am
by DeletedUser
Fire Grimes and Leipold and hire Kotelniki as HC?

Re: Fire Grimes Thread

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2024 9:14 am
by hartjack8
DeletedUser wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2024 6:23 am Fire Grimes and Leipold and hire Kotelniki as HC?
That would have been the move if someone would have been allowed to take the Div 3 Wizard away from us. Say someone hired LL which was used to get some nice raises. Then we promote AK to HC.
We could have went out and got a nice DC and been in a good spot. The right move was Coach Z who called the plays in last years bowl game instead of hiring Grimes. The Div 3 Wizard has had his coaches together since they ruled the Div 3. Losing OC and OL coach this off season has lead to our offense being off. The OL is just not the same. JD is getting pressured much more than QB's have been.

The OL play is nothing we have had the last few years. Yesterday back ups were going in fast. I could not keep up with it. I saw Bumgardner in at RG. There was one drive quick three and out that I swear the whole line was back ups.

Look JD taking a lot of heat on all this. I am going to say that if you put another QB back there it is worse not better.

Re: Fire Grimes Thread

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2024 11:50 am
by JKLivin
So, I guess Leipold’s plan is do do jack shit about these issues this week? Solid strategy.

Re: Fire Grimes Thread

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2024 12:22 pm
by twocoach
JKLivin wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 11:50 am So, I guess Leipold’s plan is do do jack shit about these issues this week? Solid strategy.
You'd think that KU fans would have learned their lesson from the Mangino firing but apparently not. Firing a coach because you got your hopes up and it didn't work out is corny and childish. The entire KU roster and staff looks like they didn't properly prepare for the season and it has bit them. Daniels seems to have rested on his past achievements while resting his back and is now suffering from rust and bad decision making. If he performs even reasonably close to what was expected of him then KU is 4-0 right now.

Re: Fire Grimes Thread

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2024 1:36 pm
by JKLivin
twocoach wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 12:22 pm
JKLivin wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 11:50 am So, I guess Leipold’s plan is do do jack shit about these issues this week? Solid strategy.
You'd think that KU fans would have learned their lesson from the Mangino firing but apparently not. Firing a coach because you got your hopes up and it didn't work out is corny and childish. The entire KU roster and staff looks like they didn't properly prepare for the season and it has bit them. Daniels seems to have rested on his past achievements while resting his back and is now suffering from rust and bad decision making. If he performs even reasonably close to what was expected of him then KU is 4-0 right now.
There have to be consequences for underperformance; otherwise, people get complacent and it becomes the norm.

When KSUck was struggling offensively, Bill Snyder used to tell the coaches over the headsets, “We either score on this drive, or one of you will be unemployed tomorrow.” Apparently it worked for them.

Sending Grimey packing and/or benching Daniels for the TCU game might light a fire under some unmotivated rear ends. Or, just keep making excuses, lose out the season, and play to an empty new stadium next season.

I don’t much care for Option B.

Re: Fire Grimes Thread

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2024 2:01 pm
by twocoach
JKLivin wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 1:36 pm
twocoach wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 12:22 pm
JKLivin wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 11:50 am So, I guess Leipold’s plan is do do jack shit about these issues this week? Solid strategy.
You'd think that KU fans would have learned their lesson from the Mangino firing but apparently not. Firing a coach because you got your hopes up and it didn't work out is corny and childish. The entire KU roster and staff looks like they didn't properly prepare for the season and it has bit them. Daniels seems to have rested on his past achievements while resting his back and is now suffering from rust and bad decision making. If he performs even reasonably close to what was expected of him then KU is 4-0 right now.
There have to be consequences for underperformance; otherwise, people get complacent and it becomes the norm.

When KSUck was struggling offensively, Bill Snyder used to tell the coaches over the headsets, “We either score on this drive, or one of you will be unemployed tomorrow.” Apparently it worked for them.

Sending Grimey packing and/or benching Daniels for the TCU game might light a fire under some unmotivated rear ends. Or, just keep making excuses, lose out the season, and play to an empty new stadium next season.

I don’t much care for Option B.
You forgot Option C: fire what you have only to find that the pool of coaches available to hire to replace him (AKA the coaches who don't currently HAVE A JOB) results in the team being even worse than before.

But I am getting close to the point where Daniels needs to sit for a while, even if it is for just a half as he does not appear to be learning from his mistakes.

Re: Fire Grimes Thread

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2024 5:09 pm
by Back2Lawrence
twocoach wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 12:22 pm

You'd think that KU fans would have learned their lesson from the Mangino firing but apparently not. Firing a coach because you got your hopes up and it didn't work out is corny and childish. The entire KU roster and staff looks like they didn't properly prepare for the season and it has bit them.
Uh, Mangino got fired for consistently mistreating athletes to the point that they said something.

He was an abusive bully. Old School is how I think many would define it. Parents of my parents age would have supported such behavior. Half a generation + later, nah. Today, forget about it.


None of that really matters though. Uh, the hopes wouldn't have been up if results hadn't happened. With MOSTLY this same group of players. Corny and childish? GTFOH. It's not a lack of preparation is hard to call, which seems like it's saying they aren't trying or didn't give it their best (players and coaches). I doubt either is true. Simply, some bad breaks have happened, coupled with mistakes from players and a switch of schemes on offense, which has produced less results.

My Penn State best friend was bewildered that PSU was beating Ball State with trick plays. It was motion, switching fields, etc. He's not used to that at PSU. I told him to get used to it, as it's how AK confuses and distresses D's with his playcalling and formations.

A lot of this is on coaching. Some of it on bad luck (truly). Some of it on JD6, in particular.

Re: Fire Grimes Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2024 1:36 pm
by Sparko
The games were all good ones. The revenge factor sure works. Borland was pretty bad in the WVU game though. Really bad.

Re: Fire Grimes Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2024 2:05 pm
by AlOerter
I liken this season to a sophomore slump. You exceed expectations the previous year and fall below expectations the following year. Still time to right the ship.

Too much invested to bail now. Leipold may have to face the ugly reality of big time coaching. Sometimes you have to fire someone. That normally happens at the end of the season.

Re: Fire Grimes Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2024 2:19 pm
by pdub
I'm just not sure why Grimes was the pick -- nothing he had done at Baylor was inspiring -- he got fired from Baylor.

Re: Fire Grimes Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2024 2:26 pm
by Psychhawk
pdub wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 2:19 pm I'm just not sure why Grimes was the pick -- nothing he had done at Baylor was inspiring -- he got fired from Baylor.
We have had much more success hiring up and comers who were successful at lower levels than hiring coaches who have been let go at other places, regardless of how successful they might have been at one time.

Re: Fire Grimes Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2024 2:57 pm
by pdub
Psychhawk wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 2:26 pm
pdub wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 2:19 pm I'm just not sure why Grimes was the pick -- nothing he had done at Baylor was inspiring -- he got fired from Baylor.
We have had much more success hiring up and comers who were successful at lower levels than hiring coaches who have been let go at other places, regardless of how successful they might have been at one time.
Shoulda gone after the WKU OC, Zach Kittley.

Re: Fire Grimes Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2024 3:25 pm
by RainbowsandUnicorns
Back2Lawrence wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 5:09 pm
twocoach wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 12:22 pm

You'd think that KU fans would have learned their lesson from the Mangino firing but apparently not. Firing a coach because you got your hopes up and it didn't work out is corny and childish. The entire KU roster and staff looks like they didn't properly prepare for the season and it has bit them.
Uh, Mangino got fired for consistently mistreating athletes to the point that they said something.

He was an abusive bully. Old School is how I think many would define it. Parents of my parents age would have supported such behavior. Half a generation + later, nah. Today, forget about it.


None of that really matters though. Uh, the hopes wouldn't have been up if results hadn't happened. With MOSTLY this same group of players. Corny and childish? GTFOH. It's not a lack of preparation is hard to call, which seems like it's saying they aren't trying or didn't give it their best (players and coaches). I doubt either is true. Simply, some bad breaks have happened, coupled with mistakes from players and a switch of schemes on offense, which has produced less results.

My Penn State best friend was bewildered that PSU was beating Ball State with trick plays. It was motion, switching fields, etc. He's not used to that at PSU. I told him to get used to it, as it's how AK confuses and distresses D's with his playcalling and formations.

A lot of this is on coaching. Some of it on bad luck (truly). Some of it on JD6, in particular.
Penn State didn't play Ball State.

Re: Fire Grimes Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2024 3:29 pm
by Back2Lawrence
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 3:25 pm
Back2Lawrence wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 5:09 pm
twocoach wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 12:22 pm

You'd think that KU fans would have learned their lesson from the Mangino firing but apparently not. Firing a coach because you got your hopes up and it didn't work out is corny and childish. The entire KU roster and staff looks like they didn't properly prepare for the season and it has bit them.
Uh, Mangino got fired for consistently mistreating athletes to the point that they said something.

He was an abusive bully. Old School is how I think many would define it. Parents of my parents age would have supported such behavior. Half a generation + later, nah. Today, forget about it.


None of that really matters though. Uh, the hopes wouldn't have been up if results hadn't happened. With MOSTLY this same group of players. Corny and childish? GTFOH. It's not a lack of preparation is hard to call, which seems like it's saying they aren't trying or didn't give it their best (players and coaches). I doubt either is true. Simply, some bad breaks have happened, coupled with mistakes from players and a switch of schemes on offense, which has produced less results.

My Penn State best friend was bewildered that PSU was beating Ball State with trick plays. It was motion, switching fields, etc. He's not used to that at PSU. I told him to get used to it, as it's how AK confuses and distresses D's with his playcalling and formations.

A lot of this is on coaching. Some of it on bad luck (truly). Some of it on JD6, in particular.
Penn State didn't play Ball State.
Kent State?

Re: Fire Grimes Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2024 3:32 pm
by RainbowsandUnicorns
Back2Lawrence wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 3:29 pm
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 3:25 pm
Back2Lawrence wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 5:09 pm

Uh, Mangino got fired for consistently mistreating athletes to the point that they said something.

He was an abusive bully. Old School is how I think many would define it. Parents of my parents age would have supported such behavior. Half a generation + later, nah. Today, forget about it.


None of that really matters though. Uh, the hopes wouldn't have been up if results hadn't happened. With MOSTLY this same group of players. Corny and childish? GTFOH. It's not a lack of preparation is hard to call, which seems like it's saying they aren't trying or didn't give it their best (players and coaches). I doubt either is true. Simply, some bad breaks have happened, coupled with mistakes from players and a switch of schemes on offense, which has produced less results.

My Penn State best friend was bewildered that PSU was beating Ball State with trick plays. It was motion, switching fields, etc. He's not used to that at PSU. I told him to get used to it, as it's how AK confuses and distresses D's with his playcalling and formations.

A lot of this is on coaching. Some of it on bad luck (truly). Some of it on JD6, in particular.
Penn State didn't play Ball State.
Kent State?
Probably. If not, maybe Bowling Green?
Sheeeeet, Penn State got lucky to beat Bowling Green.

Re: Fire Grimes Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2024 3:51 pm
by Back2Lawrence
Bowling Green! That’s it! Haha. It’s whoever Tennessee beat up real good a week or two before

Re: Fire Grimes Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2024 4:08 pm
by JKLivin
Back2Lawrence wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 5:09 pm
twocoach wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 12:22 pm

You'd think that KU fans would have learned their lesson from the Mangino firing but apparently not. Firing a coach because you got your hopes up and it didn't work out is corny and childish. The entire KU roster and staff looks like they didn't properly prepare for the season and it has bit them.
Uh, Mangino got fired for consistently mistreating athletes to the point that they said something.

He was an abusive bully. Old School is how I think many would define it. Parents of my parents age would have supported such behavior. Half a generation + later, nah. Today, forget about it.


None of that really matters though. Uh, the hopes wouldn't have been up if results hadn't happened. With MOSTLY this same group of players. Corny and childish? GTFOH. It's not a lack of preparation is hard to call, which seems like it's saying they aren't trying or didn't give it their best (players and coaches). I doubt either is true. Simply, some bad breaks have happened, coupled with mistakes from players and a switch of schemes on offense, which has produced less results.

My Penn State best friend was bewildered that PSU was beating Ball State with trick plays. It was motion, switching fields, etc. He's not used to that at PSU. I told him to get used to it, as it's how AK confuses and distresses D's with his playcalling and formations.

A lot of this is on coaching. Some of it on bad luck (truly). Some of it on JD6, in particular.
I’m not sure what they can do play calling - wise when your QB can’t be depended upon to either a) make a good read and complete a pass or b) not fumble the ball away when pressured. The opposing defense starts keying on the run game pretty quickly.