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Re: Bluesky
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 11:28 am
by pdub
Twitter/X has become trash.
And yes, very poli-bored focused trash.
Elon just tanked that company.
Re: Bluesky
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 11:37 am
by BiggDick
yea.
It was already kinda struggling to begin with, as its focus shifted from a simple community of users to discuss news and events and everything else for 140 characters at a time, to a platform with a focus increasingly on commercialization and creating revenue for shareholder returns and competing with other platforms as they too drifted from user-based communities to more commercialized products.
But Elon was the kiss of death.
Re: Bluesky
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 11:37 am
by BiggDick
jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 11:23 am
There's no trolling at all. I just have a feeling I know what certain people would have said about what happened with X, had it happened in the other direction.
ohhh
well don't got CoyDC on us about it now.
Share your feelings!
Re: Bluesky
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 11:54 am
by jfish26
BiggDick wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 11:37 am
jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 11:23 am
There's no trolling at all. I just have a feeling I know what certain people would have said about what happened with X, had it happened in the other direction.
ohhh
well don't got CoyDC on us about it now.
Share your feelings!
It's not complicated, I was just trying to keep this from spinning off into outer space.
The same people who think that facebook was violating the first amendment by moderating false information, are apparently the same people who have no problem with X and its owner more-or-less buying something that kinda doesn't NOT look like Trump's margin of victory.
Re: Bluesky
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 11:54 am
by jfish26
pdub wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 11:28 am
Twitter/X has become trash.
And yes, very poli-bored focused trash.
Elon just tanked that company.
Seems like he got what he wanted, tho.
Re: Bluesky
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:09 pm
by pdub
jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 11:54 am
pdub wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 11:28 am
Twitter/X has become trash.
And yes, very poli-bored focused trash.
Elon just tanked that company.
Seems like he got what he wanted, tho.
Very much so.
It worked.
Now he can profit after his looses.
Re: Bluesky
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:35 pm
by KUTradition
at what point do twitter and truth social just merge?
Re: Bluesky
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:43 pm
by jfish26
KUTradition wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:35 pm
at what point do twitter and truth social just merge?
You're not asking the right question.
Re: Bluesky
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:48 pm
by KUTradition
jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:43 pm
KUTradition wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:35 pm
at what point do twitter and truth social just merge?
You're not asking the right question.
my name isn’t Neo
Re: Bluesky
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 1:28 pm
by jfish26
KUTradition wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:48 pm
jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:43 pm
KUTradition wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:35 pm
at what point do twitter and truth social just merge?
You're not asking the right question.
my name isn’t Neo
I don't think we should be surprised at all if - free-speech-absolutism, small-and-weak federal gubmint cognitive dissonance be damned - we very quickly see our tax dollars put to work at squeezing
other places out of existence.
Re: Bluesky
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 1:35 pm
by KUTradition
jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 1:28 pm
KUTradition wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:48 pm
jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:43 pm
You're not asking the right question.
my name isn’t Neo
I don't think we should be surprised at all if - free-speech-absolutism, small-and-weak federal gubmint cognitive dissonance be damned - we very quickly see our tax dollars put to work at squeezing
other places out of existence.
such as?
i’m with you, but just curious about where your imagination is going
Re: Bluesky
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 2:17 pm
by jfish26
KUTradition wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 1:35 pm
jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 1:28 pm
KUTradition wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:48 pm
my name isn’t Neo
I don't think we should be surprised at all if - free-speech-absolutism, small-and-weak federal gubmint cognitive dissonance be damned - we very quickly see our tax dollars put to work at squeezing
other places out of existence.
such as?
i’m with you, but just curious about where your imagination is going
The topic of this thread is an obvious starting place, given what it's turning into.
Again, no one is going to come out and say specific things in all-caps.
But watch: it won't be long at all before people start making censorship or infringement noises in its general direction. And then mysteriously those noises will somehow manifest into proceedings before very specific courts.
Re: Bluesky
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 2:24 pm
by BiggDick
jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 1:28 pm
I don't think we should be surprised at all if - free-speech-absolutism, small-and-weak federal gubmint cognitive dissonance be damned - we very quickly see our tax dollars put to work at squeezing
other places out of existence.
I'm pretty sure you mean this more in a Magahead censorship kinda way.
But I'm also concerned this whole "squeezing other places out of existence" has very much been and is being committed by other tech giants at large, and perhaps certain in particular.
The "buy or bury" strategy Zuck has been accused of comes to mind.
Re: Bluesky
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 2:36 pm
by jfish26
BiggDick wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 2:24 pm
jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 1:28 pm
I don't think we should be surprised at all if - free-speech-absolutism, small-and-weak federal gubmint cognitive dissonance be damned - we very quickly see our tax dollars put to work at squeezing
other places out of existence.
I'm pretty sure you mean this more in a Magahead censorship kinda way.
But I'm also concerned this whole "squeezing other places out of existence" has very much been and is being committed by other tech giants at large, and perhaps certain in particular.
The "buy or bury" strategy Zuck has been accused of comes to mind.
And now give one of those tech giants the backing of everything the federal government can bring to bear.
Re: Bluesky
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 2:45 pm
by BiggDick
I mean, I think that's more or less what we're already seeing.
After all the issues and controversies created by big tech, dunno if they've ever been subjected to much more than a slap on the wrist.
What you're suggesting seems different tho, that Elon's cozy relationship with Trump may yield some favorable treatment by the gummint for Twitter. Maybe, I guess?
I dunno if the government can compel advertisers and high-profile accounts to remain on Twitter when it's otherwise just some free market decision to jump ship.
And, again, as far as "give one of those tech giants the backing of everything the federal government can bring to bear," that kind of already sums up so much of Elon's career either way. He's not exactly self-made.
Re: Bluesky
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 3:29 pm
by KUTradition
musk is apparently cozy with the potential new fcc chair as well…a few more like-minded individuals and cbs/60 Minutes might start sweating a bit
and i won’t even mention starlink
as i said in another thread, oligarchy-in-waiting