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Pretty weak attempt to discredit. Crowd sizes are AlWAYS estimates. Ain't nobody going around hand counting people indivually

Watch the whole thing if you want to try to dismiss it. And give me a good reason why

There is first hand testimony from other scientists at the top of their field, that faucci led smear campaigns against, to discredit their voice and get them removed from social media

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 11:33 am Pretty weak attempt to discredit. Crowd sizes are AlWAYS estimates. Ain't nobody going around hand counting people indivually

Watch the whole thing if you want to try to dismiss it. And give me a good reason why

There is first hand testimony from other scientists at the top of their field, that faucci led smear campaigns against, to discredit their voice and get them removed from social media

You said "factual journalism". I cited an example of why I don't associate Kibbe with "factual journalism".
Most of what I watched in the video was Jay Bhattacharya speaking. The guy who during Covid would say things that were NOT at all FACTUAL - and presented them as being as such.
I don't have any problem with people calling out Fauci. He deserves it.
I don't have a problem with people who say they were discredited (and attempted to be silenced) for having an unpopular opinion - when they cite specific "factual" examples.
What I do have a problem with is when YOU use tactics to convince others that someone is saying something that is "factual journalism" when much of what I heard Bhattacharya saying is/was OPINION based.

I get it, the fact the faucci was actively running smear campaigns to silence and discredit other scientists contradicts what some of you want to beleive. But it happened. It was consistent throughout the covid era, as other scientists were trying to gather data and make informed opinions on covid, faucci was trying to stop it

But eventually the scientific method prevailed

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 11:44 am I get it, the fact the faucci was actively running smear campaigns to silence and discredit other scientists contradicts what some of you want to beleive. But it happened. It was consistent throughout the covid era, as other scientists were trying to gather data and make informed opinions on covid, faucci was trying to stop it

But eventually the scientific method prevailed

In HINDSIGHT (post height of Covid) I mean it when I say fuck Fauci for smearing and discrediting and trying to silence other scientists - AND fuck other scientists for smearing and discrediting and trying to silence Fauci.
UNLESS, they were 100% SURE of what they were smearing, and discrediting, and trying to silence one another for - and those things were purposely misleading people in to things that were harmful to them.

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 11:44 am I get it, the fact the faucci was actively running smear campaigns to silence and discredit other scientists contradicts what some of you want to beleive. But it happened. It was consistent throughout the covid era, as other scientists were trying to gather data and make informed opinions on covid, faucci was trying to stop it

But eventually the scientific method prevailed

“Nothing is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious* stupidity.”

Martin Luther King


*I'll give Randy a pass when it comes to being conscientiously stupid.

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 12:02 pm

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 11:44 am I get it, the fact the faucci was actively running smear campaigns to silence and discredit other scientists contradicts what some of you want to beleive. But it happened. It was consistent throughout the covid era, as other scientists were trying to gather data and make informed opinions on covid, faucci was trying to stop it

But eventually the scientific method prevailed

In HINDSIGHT (post height of Covid) I mean it when I say fuck Fauci for smearing and discrediting and trying to silence other scientists - AND fuck other scientists for smearing and discrediting and trying to silence Fauci.
UNLESS, they were 100% SURE of what they were smearing, and discrediting, and trying to silence one another for - and those things were purposely misleading people in to things that were harmful to them.

That i do agree with. There should have been an open honest approach to a new situation like this, however faucci initially was aggressively going after other scientists for question his narrative

He did so because of his involvement with the funding and research that led to the existence of covid. He couldn't afford to be held accountable. He didn't act alone, but his involvement with the government researching gain of function virus is a crime against humanity

And big government as a whole, everyone involved, in us tax dollars funding gain of function research, can't afford to he held accountable

That is why faucci is being preemptively pardoned

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 11:43 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 11:33 am Pretty weak attempt to discredit. Crowd sizes are AlWAYS estimates. Ain't nobody going around hand counting people indivually

Watch the whole thing if you want to try to dismiss it. And give me a good reason why

There is first hand testimony from other scientists at the top of their field, that faucci led smear campaigns against, to discredit their voice and get them removed from social media

I don't have any problem with people calling out Fauci. He deserves it.

No, he doesn't.

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 12:49 pm And big government as a whole, everyone involved, in us tax dollars funding gain of function research, can't afford to he held accountable

That is why faucci is being preemptively pardoned

I know that truly stupid people are rare.
But, here you are.

They claim it's not proof of guilt. But against trump coming after them. But why would he do that?

Because it's what they did to him for almost the past decade. And it never worked. They did everything they could to drain his finances, silence him, remove him from the ballot, throw him in jail, and there were even assassination attempts against him. How could anyone with their eyes open still side with the democrats after all this?

If they truly didn't do anything wrong, they'd have no reason to fear trump "coming after them" with criminal charges. They could beat it in court. The thing is, they did a lot wrong

Peltier's clemency practically guarantees pardons for all J6ers.

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 1:15 pm They claim it's not proof of guilt. But against trump coming after them. But why would he do that?

[…]

If they truly didn't do anything wrong, they'd have no reason to fear trump "coming after them" with criminal charges. They could beat it in court. The thing is, they did a lot wrong

You either know how stupid this is (and you’re essentially lying), or you don’t (which is worse).

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 1:15 pm They claim it's not proof of guilt. But against trump coming after them. But why would he do that?

Because it's what they did to him for almost the past decade. And it never worked. They did everything they could to drain his finances, silence him, remove him from the ballot, throw him in jail, and there were even assassination attempts against him. How could anyone with their eyes open still side with the democrats after all this?

If they truly didn't do anything wrong, they'd have no reason to fear trump "coming after them" with criminal charges. They could beat it in court. The thing is, they did a lot wrong

Your ignorance just sold our nation to billionaires and foreign interests in Russia and China.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 1:24 pm

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 1:15 pm They claim it's not proof of guilt. But against trump coming after them. But why would he do that?

[…]

If they truly didn't do anything wrong, they'd have no reason to fear trump "coming after them" with criminal charges. They could beat it in court. The thing is, they did a lot wrong

You either know how stupid this is (and you’re essentially lying), or you don’t (which is worse).

Like a snow leopard

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 1:15 pm They claim it's not proof of guilt. But against trump coming after them. But why would he do that?

Because it's what they did to him for almost the past decade. And it never worked. They did everything they could to drain his finances, silence him, remove him from the ballot, throw him in jail, and there were even assassination attempts against him. How could anyone with their eyes open still side with the democrats after all this?

If they truly didn't do anything wrong, they'd have no reason to fear trump "coming after them" with criminal charges. They could beat it in court. The thing is, they did a lot wrong

By that logic, the fact that Trump did not "beat it in court" shows that he did a lot wrong.

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 1:32 pm

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 1:15 pm They claim it's not proof of guilt. But against trump coming after them. But why would he do that?

Because it's what they did to him for almost the past decade. And it never worked. They did everything they could to drain his finances, silence him, remove him from the ballot, throw him in jail, and there were even assassination attempts against him. How could anyone with their eyes open still side with the democrats after all this?

If they truly didn't do anything wrong, they'd have no reason to fear trump "coming after them" with criminal charges. They could beat it in court. The thing is, they did a lot wrong

By that logic, the fact that Trump did not "beat it in court" shows that he did a lot wrong.

Right. Prevailed on the merits precisely…zero times? At least on anything remotely meaningful?

" They did everything they could to drain his finances, silence him, remove him from the ballot, throw him in jail, and there were even assassination attempts against him. How could anyone with their eyes open still side with the democrats after all this?"

Trump broke laws...a lot of them.
It was right out in the open, for all to see.

Overlander wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 1:41 pm " They did everything they could to drain his finances, silence him, remove him from the ballot, throw him in jail, and there were even assassination attempts against him. How could anyone with their eyes open still side with the democrats after all this?"

Trump broke laws...a lot of them.
It was right out in the open, for all to see.

Now he has given China, Russia and tech billionaires the keys to the vault so they can rob us in plain sight.

You don’t need a pardon unless you were doing some really wrong crap you were convinced you would never be called to account for doing.