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TraditionKU wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:20 pmillegally?

We don't know what justification they used to open an investigation. The NYT report states that "The decision to investigate Mr. Trump himself was an aggressive move by F.B.I. officials." Aggressive -- and based on "feelings" they had about Trump's exercise of his power as the head of the executive branch. If that's all there was, then the FBI has a problem.

The FBI bases decisions on “feelings?”

That’s beneath you.

Leawood wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:44 pm The FBI bases decisions on “feelings?”

That’s beneath you.

Perhaps a poor choice of words.

But read the original NYT article. That's basically what it says, although they use the words "concern" "suspicions" instead of "feelings."

Another "opinion" and "Aggressive...feelings":

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:48 pm More opinions from people who don't know any actual details either?

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:36 pm We don't know what justification they used to open an investigation. The NYT report states that "The decision to investigate Mr. Trump himself was an aggressive move by F.B.I. officials." Aggressive -- and based on "feelings" they had about Trump's exercise of his power as the head of the executive branch. If that's all there was, then the FBI has a problem.

Feral wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:14 pm Another "opinion" and "Aggressive...feelings":

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:48 pm More opinions from people who don't know any actual details either?

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:36 pm We don't know what justification they used to open an investigation. The NYT report states that "The decision to investigate Mr. Trump himself was an aggressive move by F.B.I. officials." Aggressive -- and based on "feelings" they had about Trump's exercise of his power as the head of the executive branch. If that's all there was, then the FBI has a problem.

By all means, let's spend more time on worthless partisan investigations. We don't need to spend time on legislation. It's more important to "get" Trump.

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:36 pm

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:20 pmillegally?

We don't know what justification they used to open an investigation. The NYT report states that "The decision to investigate Mr. Trump himself was an aggressive move by F.B.I. officials." Aggressive -- and based on "feelings" they had about Trump's exercise of his power as the head of the executive branch. If that's all there was, then the FBI has a problem.

so you’re just assuming...

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:54 pm

Leawood wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:44 pm The FBI bases decisions on “feelings?”

That’s beneath you.

Perhaps a poor choice of words.

But read the original NYT article. That's basically what it says, although they use the words "concern" "suspicions" instead of "feelings."

but if their evidence is “top secret” or whatever, then we won’t know anything about until the report comes out (if then)

dolomite wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:21 pm

Feral wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:14 pm Another "opinion" and "Aggressive...feelings":

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:48 pm More opinions from people who don't know any actual details either?

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:36 pm We don't know what justification they used to open an investigation. The NYT report states that "The decision to investigate Mr. Trump himself was an aggressive move by F.B.I. officials." Aggressive -- and based on "feelings" they had about Trump's exercise of his power as the head of the executive branch. If that's all there was, then the FBI has a problem.

By all means, let's spend more time on worthless partisan investigations. We don't need to spend time on legislation. It's more important to "get" Trump.

quit being an idiot

it’s more important that we make sure our president truly puts the best interests of our country first

Feral wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:14 pm Another "opinion" and "Aggressive...feelings":

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:48 pm More opinions from people who don't know any actual details either?

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:36 pm We don't know what justification they used to open an investigation. The NYT report states that "The decision to investigate Mr. Trump himself was an aggressive move by F.B.I. officials." Aggressive -- and based on "feelings" they had about Trump's exercise of his power as the head of the executive branch. If that's all there was, then the FBI has a problem.

lulz...

Except for the fact that we KNOW that's not caused them to initiate their investigation (which was begun under false premises, BTW).

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:31 pm

it’s more important that we make sure our president truly puts the best interests of our country first

It's also important to hold the largely unaccountable nationals security bureaucracy to at least some basic standards.

Libreals used to understand that.

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:41 pm

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:31 pm

it’s more important that we make sure our president truly puts the best interests of our country first

It's also important to hold the largely unaccountable nationals security bureaucracy to at least some basic standards.

Libreals used to understand that.

DC talking common sense. Good luck getting Tradition to comprehend it.

dolomite wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:21 pm

Feral wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:14 pm Another "opinion" and "Aggressive...feelings":

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:48 pm More opinions from people who don't know any actual details either?

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:36 pm We don't know what justification they used to open an investigation. The NYT report states that "The decision to investigate Mr. Trump himself was an aggressive move by F.B.I. officials." Aggressive -- and based on "feelings" they had about Trump's exercise of his power as the head of the executive branch. If that's all there was, then the FBI has a problem.

By all means, let's spend more time on worthless partisan investigations. We don't need to spend time on legislation. It's more important to "get" Trump.

But if Clinton had been elected, there would be no end to your calls for more investigations. The hypocrisy is nauseating.

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:39 pm

Feral wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:14 pm Another "opinion" and "Aggressive...feelings":

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:48 pm More opinions from people who don't know any actual details either?

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:36 pm We don't know what justification they used to open an investigation. The NYT report states that "The decision to investigate Mr. Trump himself was an aggressive move by F.B.I. officials." Aggressive -- and based on "feelings" they had about Trump's exercise of his power as the head of the executive branch. If that's all there was, then the FBI has a problem.

lulz...

Except for the fact that we KNOW that's not caused them to initiate their investigation (which was begun under false premises, BTW).

I thought you said that "we don't know what justification they used to open an investigation". But you now know what wasn't used and that it was opened under false pretenses. Got it.

DC making excuses for Trump again.

It shore does come across that way, don’t it

He's not agreeing! He must be making excuses! Grab the pitch forks!

Nah, he's just muddying the waters. I do agree with him that it is important that the FBI behave with an acceptable level of standards. There's just a lot of people with half buckets of information on each side making assumptions about whether they did or not. Not to mention people on different sides defining "acceptable" differently.

We don't know the full information used to justify opening an investigation. I don't think it should take much more than a question about whether or not something shady happened to OPEN an investigation. To me, that's an acceptable standard for opening an investigation. They are by definition the Federal Bureau of INVESTIGATIONS. They shouldn't sit back and wait until it is obvious that something bad has happened.

twocoach wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:59 pm
But if Clinton had been elected, there would be no end to your calls for more investigations. The hypocrisy is nauseating.

Yes the hypocrisy is nauseating.

All the times you or someone else says "stop bringing up Clinton".....and then here you are bringing up Clinton.

I see how this works.

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:53 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:59 pm
But if Clinton had been elected, there would be no end to your calls for more investigations. The hypocrisy is nauseating.

Yes the hypocrisy is nauseating.

All the times you or someone else says "stop bringing up Clinton".....and then here you are bringing up Clinton.

I see how this works.

Good lord. Its amazing the pure volume of dumb takes you generate in any one day.

Geezer wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:16 pm DC making excuses for Trump again.

Geezer still heavily medicated.

Actually, it's worse. It's Geezer, once again, coming down on the side of the government's jackboots. How far he's come.


So, to clarify (for twocoach): the only justification for any of this ever made public is the Steele Dossier, which is opposition research and nothing more. We don't know any more, because neither the Tomes nor it's sources said anything. My expectation is that it will all come back to the dossier, but I'm willing to be proven wrong.