Kansas Crimson

I would mow that down.

More evidence that most Americans are going to hell:

jfc

Feral wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 6:51 pm More evidence that most Americans are going to hell:

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:48 pmjfc

You might ask yourself: Why should I take advice from someone who paid a woman to keep an alleged rape quiet, and who was convicted on 24 counts of fraud and conspiracy?

And, you might think the evangelical "Christian" love affair with the party of Jesus and people like orange Mussolini is new.
If so, you'd be wrong.

(BTW, where have we heard the term "witch-hunt", before?):

Throughout the 1970s, Bakker built a headquarters for their ministry in the Carolinas called Heritage Village.[13] Over time, the Bakkers expanded the ministry to include the Heritage USA amusement park in Fort Mill, South Carolina. Heritage USA became the third-most-successful theme park in the US at the time. Viewer contributions were estimated to exceed $1 million a week...

In 1979, Bakker and his PTL ministry came under investigation by the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) for allegedly misusing funds raised on the air; the FCC report was finalized in 1982 and found that Bakker had raised $350,000 that he told viewers would go towards funding overseas missions but were actually used to pay for part of Heritage USA. [T]he FCC forwarded their report to the Justice Department, who declined to press charges, citing insufficient evidence.[20] Bakker used the controversy to raise more funds from his audience, branding the investigation a "witch-hunt", and asking viewers to "give the Devil a black eye".[21]

A confidential 1985 Internal Revenue Service report found that $1.3 million in ministry funds were used for the Bakkers' personal benefit from 1980 to 1983. The report recommended that PTL be stripped of its tax-exempt status but no action was taken until the Jessica Hahn scandal in 1987. Art Harris and Michael Isikoff wrote in The Washington Post that politics may have played a role in the three government agencies taking no action against PTL despite the evidence against them, as members of the Reagan administration were not eager to go after television ministers whose evangelical followers made up their base.[22]

A $279,000 payoff for the silence of Jessica Hahn, who alleged that Bakker and former PTL Club co-host John Wesley Fletcher drugged and raped her, was paid with PTL's funds through Bakker's associate Roe Messner.[23][24] Bakker, who made the PTL organization's financial decisions, allegedly kept two sets of books to conceal accounting irregularities.

...After a 16-month federal grand-jury probe, Bakker was indicted in 1988 on eight counts of mail fraud, 15 counts of wire fraud and one count of conspiracy.[23] In 1989, after a five-week trial which began on August 28 in Charlotte, North Carolina, a jury found him guilty on all 24 counts. Judge Robert Daniel Potter sentenced Bakker to 45 years in federal prison and imposed a $500,000 fine.

[...]

Roe Messner from Wichita, built Terradyne Golf Club and also married Tammy Faye Bakker.

Feral wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 6:51 pm More evidence that most Americans are going to hell:

That's kind of the equivalent of saying some radical Nation of Islam figurehead represents the Democrat Party. Both sides have knuckleheads. Doesn't mean they are representative of the majority.

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:51 pm

Feral wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 6:51 pm More evidence that most Americans are going to hell:

That's kind of the equivalent of saying some radical Nation of Islam figurehead represents the Democrat Party. Both sides have knuckleheads. Doesn't mean they are representative of the majority.

It's like you're reading my mind, or something

#busted

So, because a political cartoonist draws a picture, it is true?

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:06 pm So, because a political cartoonist draws a picture, it is true?

Considering your low regard for trivialities like evidence and facts, you wouldn't know what's true if it walked up and cuffed you.

You’re smarter than that.

Feral wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:17 pm

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:06 pm So, because a political cartoonist draws a picture, it is true?

Considering your low regard for trivialities like evidence and facts, you wouldn't know what's true if it walked up and cuffed you.

Where is his Jeebus when he was at his lowest?

jeepinjayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:01 pm

Feral wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:17 pm

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:06 pm So, because a political cartoonist draws a picture, it is true?

Considering your low regard for trivialities like evidence and facts, you wouldn't know what's true if it walked up and cuffed you.

Where is his Jeebus when he was at his lowest?

That’s a pretty simplistic notion of God if you expect not to suffer consequences for bad choices at some point. Bakker was given a great opportunity for a learning experience. Apparently, the lesson didn’t stick. The possibility of failure always goes with free will.

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:05 pm

jeepinjayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:01 pm

Feral wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:17 pm

Considering your low regard for trivialities like evidence and facts, you wouldn't know what's true if it walked up and cuffed you.

Where is his Jeebus when he was at his lowest?

That’s a pretty simplistic notion of God

Yep, I try to stay simple with all of my made up religious deities.

jeepinjayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:13 pm

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:05 pm

jeepinjayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:01 pm

Where is his Jeebus when he was at his lowest?

That’s a pretty simplistic notion of God

Yep, I try to stay simple with all of my made up religious deities.

Roger that.

Has anyone told Benedict to stay in his lane?

lulz

Sounds reasonable:

Correct.

The way to attract more believers is to insist on not holding any beliefs.