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Re: RIP RBG

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:16 am
by jfish26
NiceDC wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:12 am Overruling Roe also takes a massive carrot away from 100 million people. I doubt any GOP senator cares about Roe. They care that their base thinks they care.
Christ, I shudder to think where the bullseye would land. Reversing Obergfell?

Re: RIP RBG

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:18 am
by jfish26
Mjl wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:15 am
NiceDC wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:12 am Overruling Roe also takes a massive carrot away from 100 million people. I doubt any GOP senator cares about Roe. They care that their base thinks they care.
Again, this is where I think Romney is an exception. He has shown repeated willingness to do what is not popular amongst the Republican base.
Hope in Romney is not a plan. He has been very reliable, in his unreliability.

Re: RIP RBG

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:21 am
by Deleted User 318
jfish26 wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:16 am
NiceDC wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:12 am Overruling Roe also takes a massive carrot away from 100 million people. I doubt any GOP senator cares about Roe. They care that their base thinks they care.
Christ, I shudder to think where the bullseye would land. Reversing Obergfell?
I think American finally got over its gay panic, at least to the point where they don't want to outlaw it. But let's not give anyone any ideas.

Re: RIP RBG

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:23 am
by Deleted User 318
Mjl wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:15 am
NiceDC wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:12 am Overruling Roe also takes a massive carrot away from 100 million people. I doubt any GOP senator cares about Roe. They care that their base thinks they care.
Again, this is where I think Romney is an exception. He has shown repeated willingness to do what is not popular amongst the Republican base.
Romney has carried the water for traditional GOP positions. He has only gone against Trump. Unless Ivanka is the nominee (she's on the betting boards), I have less faith that he will do the right thing, and instead will do what is advantageous to GOP on the whole.

Re: RIP RBG

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:30 am
by jfish26
NiceDC wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:23 am
Mjl wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:15 am
NiceDC wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:12 am Overruling Roe also takes a massive carrot away from 100 million people. I doubt any GOP senator cares about Roe. They care that their base thinks they care.
Again, this is where I think Romney is an exception. He has shown repeated willingness to do what is not popular amongst the Republican base.
Romney has carried the water for traditional GOP positions. He has only gone against Trump. Unless Ivanka is the nominee (she's on the betting boards), I have less faith that he will do the right thing, and instead will do what is advantageous to GOP on the whole.
As has happened before, our saving grace is that he is so, so fucking stupid.

Case in point - his transfer of power comments yesterday. While it accomplished his goal (aggravating the libs, and so on), it gave Dems - Harris, specifically - a pretty wide opening in confirmation hearings.

An Ivanka nom would be of a piece with so many other shoot-self-in-dick moments.

Re: RIP RBG

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:59 am
by Deleted User 289
I have been watching this for about the last half hour.
Some interesting "tributes" by those viewing the casket.

https://abc7chicago.com/society/live-ju ... g/6469374/

Re: RIP RBG

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:35 am
by jfish26
The President Has Announced His Intention to Stage a Coup

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/p ... t-nominee/
[This] is different by an order of magnitude from making sure that your judges will rule a certain way on environmental regulations. This is the president* telling you in advance that he expects you to violate your oath on an existential question regarding the survival of the republic.

How can anyone possibly take that job under those circumstances? At the very least, wouldn't your professional ethics require that you announce that you will be recusing yourself from any decisions regarding the election to avoid even the appearance of a quid pro quo? And, even if the president* hinted at such an arrangement during your job interviews, isn't it your obligation as a citizen to inform your fellow citizens that these kind of shenanigans are underway? Isn't that information the country needs to know prior to electing its next president*? Isn't all this what anyone committed to an independent judiciary would do? For that matter, isn't that what a truly independent Supreme Court would do?

The president* has announced his intention to stage a coup. Judge Amy? Judge Barbara? Chief Justice Umpire? Got anything you'd like to add?

Re: RIP RBG

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:52 am
by ousdahl
NiceDC wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:21 am
jfish26 wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:16 am
NiceDC wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:12 am Overruling Roe also takes a massive carrot away from 100 million people. I doubt any GOP senator cares about Roe. They care that their base thinks they care.
Christ, I shudder to think where the bullseye would land. Reversing Obergfell?
I think American finally got over its gay panic, at least to the point where they don't want to outlaw it. But let's not give anyone any ideas.
This is all a good point.

Roe is likely worth more to GOP politicians as stock in outrage, more so than any actual end game of overturning.

Cuz once the donkey gets the carrot, what direction is he gonna trot then?

Re: RIP RBG

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:29 am
by Deleted User 89
pubs are elephants, doncha know

Re: RIP RBG

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:30 am
by ousdahl
Dangit I meant to change that to mule or pony or something, so as to avoid just that confusion

Re: RIP RBG

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:28 pm
by twocoach
Wasnice seeing video of Trump being booed out of the place wirh chants of "Vote Him Out" while he stood for a photo op with RBG's casket. Cause fuck him.

Re: RIP RBG

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:21 pm
by Deleted User 289
twocoach wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:28 pm Wasnice seeing video of Trump being booed out of the place wirh chants of "Vote Him Out" while he stood for a photo op with RBG's casket. Cause fuck him.



Re: RIP RBG

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:46 am
by jfish26
And that, ultimately, is what's behind all of the ballot bluster. He knows that, if you count every vote, he's in for a bulldozing of epic proportions.

Re: RIP RBG

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:55 am
by Deleted User 310
He is such a wimp. He literally has to make an excuse for everything.

Re: RIP RBG

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:27 am
by zsn
I don’t know why the Dems haven’t started heckling that this whole filling the seat is such a loser mentality. If the GOP is confident about winning they wouldn’t move so fast and twist themselves into a pretzel to justify the move!

Losers!!

Re: RIP RBG

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:55 am
by Deleted User 89
zsn wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:27 am I don’t know why the Dems haven’t started heckling that this whole filling the seat is such a loser mentality. If the GOP is confident about winning they wouldn’t move so fast and twist themselves into a pretzel to justify the move!

Losers!!
article on Politico basically said the same, but regarding basically everything going on now...voter fraud, SC seat, distraction from covid and economy

Re: RIP RBG

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:54 pm
by sdoyel
She probably supports Q’Anon too...


Re: RIP RBG

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:08 pm
by Deleted User 310
I have a feeling many of this boards posters twitter and facebook feeds are exactly what they speak about in "The Social Dilemma" documentary on NetFlix. It is worth the watch btw.

This is an example. Spoon feeding articles like this to liberals to make sure they stay outraged or in fear. Multiple different ones a day to keep you glued fo whichever screen you are consuming on.

That documentary also spoke on pizzagate...which was spoonfed by Facebook to right wingers in the exact same way...so we may need to blame social media sites as much as QAnon for some of that. Hell, whoever is posting on QAnon sites got their info from somewhere (likely Facebook or some form of social media). We need a way to hold some of these large tech companies responsible for who they sell "ads" to. They aren't making all that money for nothing.

Re: RIP RBG

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:12 pm
by Sparko
The quicker she is nominated, the quicker she can be impeached for facts the GOP didn't want to come out. Another Catholic too--that is damned unrepresentative--I think Gorsuch is Episcopalian. But damn, It should make you all sick that 30% of the country gets 66% of Supreme Court positions to essentially impose a Taliban right-wing ideology over the majority.

Re: RIP RBG

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:14 pm
by Sparko
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:08 pm I have a feeling many of this boards posters twitter and facebook feeds are exactly what they speak about in "The Social Dilemma" documentary on NetFlix. It is worth the watch btw.

This is an example. Spoon feeding articles like this to liberals to make sure they stay outraged or in fear. Multiple different ones a day to keep you glued fo whichever screen you are consuming on.

That documentary also spoke on pizzagate...which was spoonfed by Facebook to right wingers in the exact same way...so we may need to blame social media sites as much as QAnon for some of that. Hell, whoever is posting on QAnon sites got their info from somewhere (like Facebook or some form of social media).
Mitch McConnell is all about civil rights buddy. Jeebus. Maybe you should watch objective news for a tad.