Kansas Crimson

StayCurious wrote: ↑Tue Dec 27, 2022 1:08 pm I guess one could argue that maybe guys like Diallo and Selby were not really as good as advertised (based on their NBA careers). Perhaps it had little to do with Self. Then there are other guys like Oubre and Dick who did just fine their first year in Self's system.

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Dec 27, 2022 12:06 pm

ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Dec 27, 2022 11:40 am I wonder what freshman Rice would look like if he was getting freshman Selden minutes

He doesn't appear to be good enough relative to his available teammates to earn those minutes.

Mjl wrote: ↑Tue Dec 27, 2022 1:42 pm

StayCurious wrote: ↑Tue Dec 27, 2022 1:08 pm I guess one could argue that maybe guys like Diallo and Selby were not really as good as advertised (based on their NBA careers). Perhaps it had little to do with Self. Then there are other guys like Oubre and Dick who did just fine their first year in Self's system.

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AlOerter wrote: ↑Tue Dec 27, 2022 3:31 pm A lot of it depends on the individual. Rice is behind schedule because of injuries. Pettiford had setbacks because of injuries but he's starting to get it now. We've seen it both ways. We've seen young players improve during the course of the season. We've seen some who don't get it til year 2 or 3. We've seen some who never get it.

I trust a proven coaching staff to play who they need to play when they need to play them. Do the coaches make mistakes on this matter sometimes? Sure they do. They also get it right more often than not.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Dec 27, 2022 3:39 pm And fwiw, I'm more concerned about Udeh and his lack of PT than I am Rice.

AlOerter wrote: ↑Tue Dec 27, 2022 4:57 pm

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Dec 27, 2022 3:39 pm And fwiw, I'm more concerned about Udeh and his lack of PT than I am Rice.

Ditto. I was anticipating more from him at this point.

Sharpshooting wing with playmaking skill that’ll make him more than just a specialist.

SHADES OF

Lava, fire, the sun

Catch-and-shoot Threat
Pull-up Threat
Feel for the Game
Hustle

PLUSES

Flawless shooting release with no wasted movement. He can hit any type of shot, whether it’s transition sprints that require him to stop dead in his tracks or handoffs in which he must turn and balance himself in midair. He’s in constant motion off the ball, making him the type of player who requires constant defensive attention.

He’s far more than a shooting specialist because he looks for opportunities to cut into the paint and can attack closeouts when covered behind the arc.

Good athlete with excellent body control and touch at the rim, finishing layups and floaters with either hand.

Talented playmaker who can hang in the air and still fire bull’s-eye passes to spot-up shooters or cutters. With such great vision, he’s a connective piece who will always keep the ball moving and make his teammates better.

Makes hustle plays by attacking the offensive boards for tip outs and putbacks.

High-effort defender. He’s willing to take a charge and always fights on the ball to try to compensate for his lean frame. He’s also a good help defender when making rotations or closing out on shooters.

MINUSES

Lacks the burst off his dribble to create space and get all the way to the basket. He’s more of a tough shotmaker.

Defensive liability at this stage of his career: He has a skinny frame and a lack of strength, and his subpar lateral quickness makes him a target even at the college level, so there will be no place for him to hide in the pros.

pdub wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 6:01 am Lol at the stater:

Defensive Liability

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 6:34 am

pdub wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 6:01 am Lol at the stater:

Defensive Liability

College, probably not. NBA, probably.