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pdub wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 8:50 am The thing about Hollywood is that he'll do a much better job filling Tyreek's role than MVS and Hardman were supposed to combine to do.

MVS had good speed once he started running but wasn't fast off the line.
He also couldn't cut worth a damn so once the defender(s) saw he was running a fly route they knew just had to keep up with him.
The thing that put fear into all secondaries across the league was Tyreek's straight line speed to beat you deep but that he could just instantly change routes and get an easy 5, 10, 15, 20 yards b/c he and Mahomes knew he'd be open on his change of route.

Hollywood can do this - not as well as Tyreek - but i'd say close.
Stay healthy and he's Pro Bowl ( probably a replacement but still gets to go ) good.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 9:40 am

pdub wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 8:50 am The thing about Hollywood is that he'll do a much better job filling Tyreek's role than MVS and Hardman were supposed to combine to do.

MVS had good speed once he started running but wasn't fast off the line.
He also couldn't cut worth a damn so once the defender(s) saw he was running a fly route they knew just had to keep up with him.
The thing that put fear into all secondaries across the league was Tyreek's straight line speed to beat you deep but that he could just instantly change routes and get an easy 5, 10, 15, 20 yards b/c he and Mahomes knew he'd be open on his change of route.

Hollywood can do this - not as well as Tyreek - but i'd say close.
Stay healthy and he's Pro Bowl ( probably a replacement but still gets to go ) good.

I agree. I heard some radio dudes this morning say this was a justifiable overpay. I think that's out of touch - a $7mm base and a top-end (with incentives) that's what you paid for MVS last year (and now with a higher cap) - I think it's a great deal for the Chiefs. Not an overpay in the slightest.

Now, it's a deal that you won't get next year if he's any good. But this is going to be life for the Chiefs, at least until Patrick is ready to move to the next phase of things.

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 10:46 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 9:40 am

pdub wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 8:50 am The thing about Hollywood is that he'll do a much better job filling Tyreek's role than MVS and Hardman were supposed to combine to do.

MVS had good speed once he started running but wasn't fast off the line.
He also couldn't cut worth a damn so once the defender(s) saw he was running a fly route they knew just had to keep up with him.
The thing that put fear into all secondaries across the league was Tyreek's straight line speed to beat you deep but that he could just instantly change routes and get an easy 5, 10, 15, 20 yards b/c he and Mahomes knew he'd be open on his change of route.

Hollywood can do this - not as well as Tyreek - but i'd say close.
Stay healthy and he's Pro Bowl ( probably a replacement but still gets to go ) good.

I agree. I heard some radio dudes this morning say this was a justifiable overpay. I think that's out of touch - a $7mm base and a top-end (with incentives) that's what you paid for MVS last year (and now with a higher cap) - I think it's a great deal for the Chiefs. Not an overpay in the slightest.

Now, it's a deal that you won't get next year if he's any good. But this is going to be life for the Chiefs, at least until Patrick is ready to move to the next phase of things.

Agreed. Look at the list of WRs who were making $7-11 million and not on rookie contracts and the Chiefs are getting a bargain.
Allen Robinson $7.5 million in PIT
Robert Woods $7.6 million in HOU
Adam Thielen $8.3 million in CAR
JuJu Smith-Shuster $8.5 million in NE
Russell Gage $8.5 million in in TB
Tim Patrick $10 million in DEN
Michael Thomas $10 million in NO
Brandin Cooks $10 million in DAL
etc...

This was a great signing.

pdub wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:21 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 10:46 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 9:40 am

I agree. I heard some radio dudes this morning say this was a justifiable overpay. I think that's out of touch - a $7mm base and a top-end (with incentives) that's what you paid for MVS last year (and now with a higher cap) - I think it's a great deal for the Chiefs. Not an overpay in the slightest.

Now, it's a deal that you won't get next year if he's any good. But this is going to be life for the Chiefs, at least until Patrick is ready to move to the next phase of things.

Agreed. Look at the list of WRs who were making $7-11 million and not on rookie contracts and the Chiefs are getting a bargain.
Allen Robinson $7.5 million in PIT
Robert Woods $7.6 million in HOU
Adam Thielen $8.3 million in CAR
JuJu Smith-Shuster $8.5 million in NE
Russell Gage $8.5 million in in TB
Tim Patrick $10 million in DEN
Michael Thomas $10 million in NO
Brandin Cooks $10 million in DAL
etc...

This was a great signing.

Jeudy might be more talented ( might ) but that's another, whoa, pretty penny for the Browns to spend.

According to NFL.com’s Ian Rapoport, the Browns have agreed to a three-year contract extension with WR Jerry Jeudy worth up to $58 million.

pdub wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:36 pm I'm not totally sure how the Browns are keeping this all under the cap.

pdub wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2024 6:22 am If I was a KC resident, because of the way the ownership has subtly threatened a move, I’d probably vote no on the extended ( is it increased or just extended ) tax.

pdub wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 5:14 am Sounds like Sneed to the Titans for a 3rd NEXT YEAR and a 7th this.

I dunno. He’s better than a 3rd. And you don’t even get this years which probably will be a higher 3rd pick.
And depending on what FAs you sign next year you’d get a 3rd anyways.
I’d have just kept him.

Does clear cap for other pickups. We can pay Donovan Smith if we want. Could give a 1 year deal to Steph Gilmore or Xavien Howard and hope he’s healthy,

Guess we CB hunt in the draft.