Kansas Crimson

Cascadia wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:08 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 8:17 am

KUTradition wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 7:40 am i could say the same about PhD…just calling them as he sees them

One can call them as one sees them in a manner that is respectful to others. Some choose not to. I won’t speculate as to their motives.

Telling blatant lies and dangerous misinformation is more disrespectful than calling someone an asshole or telling them to STFU.

sdoyel wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:03 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:19 am

Cascadia wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:08 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 8:17 am

One can call them as one sees them in a manner that is respectful to others. Some choose not to. I won’t speculate as to their motives.

Telling blatant lies and dangerous misinformation is more disrespectful than calling someone an asshole or telling them to STFU.

If you think it is okay to legally mandate that people take an experimental drug that is showing increasing evidence of bad side effects and mandate that they submit to electronic monitoring and tracking in order to make a living, then you and I are not going to agree.

Check the data on VAERS. I wish I didn’t have to spend the next six months worrying about whether my wife is going to miscarry because she got vaxxed and boosted when I did. I wish I wasn’t worried about birth defects caused by the vax. But I am, and I blame people like Fauci for it.

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:15 am

KUTradition wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:25 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 8:17 am

One can call them as one sees them in a manner that is respectful to others. Some choose not to. I won’t speculate as to their motives.

except that’s basically what you tried to do

You're a tough, intimidating, dominant alpha male.

It is blatantly obvious that that is how he sees - or wants to see - himself. Same with Overlander. Posturing and puffing up to create the impression of dominance.

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:19 am

Cascadia wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:08 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 8:17 am

One can call them as one sees them in a manner that is respectful to others. Some choose not to. I won’t speculate as to their motives.

Telling blatant lies and dangerous misinformation is more disrespectful than calling someone an asshole or telling them to STFU.

If you think it is okay to legally mandate that people take an experimental drug that is showing increasing evidence of bad side effects and mandate that they submit to electronic monitoring and tracking in order to make a living, then you and I are not going to agree.

Check the data on VAERS. I wish I didn’t have to spend the next six months worrying about whether my wife is going to miscarry because she got vaxxed and boosted when I did. I wish I wasn’t worried about birth defects caused by the vax. But I am, and I blame people like Fauci for it.

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:25 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:19 am

Cascadia wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:08 am

Telling blatant lies and dangerous misinformation is more disrespectful than calling someone an asshole or telling them to STFU.

If you think it is okay to legally mandate that people take an experimental drug that is showing increasing evidence of bad side effects and mandate that they submit to electronic monitoring and tracking in order to make a living, then you and I are not going to agree.

Check the data on VAERS. I wish I didn’t have to spend the next six months worrying about whether my wife is going to miscarry because she got vaxxed and boosted when I did. I wish I wasn’t worried about birth defects caused by the vax. But I am, and I blame people like Fauci for it.

VAERS is no different than wikipedia. Literally anyone can post anything there. It is not evidence of anything. It's like claiming that shit you read on twitter or facebook is "evidence" of something happening. We have had this same fucking conversation for two years and you still ignore the basic facts of it. We provide actual evidence that this is the case and you ignore it because it does not support your worldview.

https://vaers.hhs.gov/reportevent.html

"Anyone can submit a report to VAERS, including parents and patients."

Also from their own site:
https://vaers.hhs.gov/faq.html

Limitations of VAERS:

- It is generally not possible to find out from VAERS data if a vaccine caused the adverse event
- Reports submitted to VAERS often lack details and sometimes contains errors
- Serious adverse events are more likely to be reported than non-serious events
- Numbers of reports may increase in response to media attention and increased public awareness
- VAERS data cannot be used to determine rates of adverse events

Over and over and over.

Stop claiming to be a rational person who wants to engage in legitimate discourse over such things. You are regularly proving that this isn't the case. You aren't seeking "the truth".

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:25 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:19 am

Cascadia wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:08 am

Telling blatant lies and dangerous misinformation is more disrespectful than calling someone an asshole or telling them to STFU.

If you think it is okay to legally mandate that people take an experimental drug that is showing increasing evidence of bad side effects and mandate that they submit to electronic monitoring and tracking in order to make a living, then you and I are not going to agree.

Check the data on VAERS. I wish I didn’t have to spend the next six months worrying about whether my wife is going to miscarry because she got vaxxed and boosted when I did. I wish I wasn’t worried about birth defects caused by the vax. But I am, and I blame people like Fauci for it.

VAERS is no different than wikipedia. Literally anyone can post anything there. It is not evidence of anything. It's like claiming that shit you read on twitter or facebook is "evidence" of something happening. We have had this same fucking conversation for two years and you still ignore the basic facts of it. We provide actual evidence that this is the case and you ignore it because it does not support your worldview.

https://vaers.hhs.gov/reportevent.html

"Anyone can submit a report to VAERS, including parents and patients."

Over and over and over.

Stop claiming to be a rational person who wants to engage in legitimate discourse over such things. You are regularly proving that this isn't the case. You aren't seeking "the truth".

KUTradition wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:58 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:25 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:19 am

If you think it is okay to legally mandate that people take an experimental drug that is showing increasing evidence of bad side effects and mandate that they submit to electronic monitoring and tracking in order to make a living, then you and I are not going to agree.

Check the data on VAERS. I wish I didn’t have to spend the next six months worrying about whether my wife is going to miscarry because she got vaxxed and boosted when I did. I wish I wasn’t worried about birth defects caused by the vax. But I am, and I blame people like Fauci for it.

VAERS is no different than wikipedia. Literally anyone can post anything there. It is not evidence of anything. It's like claiming that shit you read on twitter or facebook is "evidence" of something happening. We have had this same fucking conversation for two years and you still ignore the basic facts of it. We provide actual evidence that this is the case and you ignore it because it does not support your worldview.

https://vaers.hhs.gov/reportevent.html

"Anyone can submit a report to VAERS, including parents and patients."

Over and over and over.

Stop claiming to be a rational person who wants to engage in legitimate discourse over such things. You are regularly proving that this isn't the case. You aren't seeking "the truth".

psych is going straight down lobster’s rabbit hole

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:19 am

Cascadia wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:08 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 8:17 am

One can call them as one sees them in a manner that is respectful to others. Some choose not to. I won’t speculate as to their motives.

Telling blatant lies and dangerous misinformation is more disrespectful than calling someone an asshole or telling them to STFU.

If you think it is okay to legally mandate that people take an experimental drug that is showing increasing evidence of bad side effects and mandate that they submit to electronic monitoring and tracking in order to make a living, then you and I are not going to agree.

Check the data on VAERS. I wish I didn’t have to spend the next six months worrying about whether my wife is going to miscarry because she got vaxxed and boosted when I did. I wish I wasn’t worried about birth defects caused by the vax. But I am, and I blame people like Fauci for it.

sdoyel wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:48 am Ironic that a psychologist has allowed himself to be brain-washed.

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:52 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:25 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:19 am

If you think it is okay to legally mandate that people take an experimental drug that is showing increasing evidence of bad side effects and mandate that they submit to electronic monitoring and tracking in order to make a living, then you and I are not going to agree.

Check the data on VAERS. I wish I didn’t have to spend the next six months worrying about whether my wife is going to miscarry because she got vaxxed and boosted when I did. I wish I wasn’t worried about birth defects caused by the vax. But I am, and I blame people like Fauci for it.

VAERS is no different than wikipedia. Literally anyone can post anything there. It is not evidence of anything. It's like claiming that shit you read on twitter or facebook is "evidence" of something happening. We have had this same fucking conversation for two years and you still ignore the basic facts of it. We provide actual evidence that this is the case and you ignore it because it does not support your worldview.

https://vaers.hhs.gov/reportevent.html

"Anyone can submit a report to VAERS, including parents and patients."

Also from their own site:
https://vaers.hhs.gov/faq.html

Limitations of VAERS:

- It is generally not possible to find out from VAERS data if a vaccine caused the adverse event
- Reports submitted to VAERS often lack details and sometimes contains errors
- Serious adverse events are more likely to be reported than non-serious events
- Numbers of reports may increase in response to media attention and increased public awareness
- VAERS data cannot be used to determine rates of adverse events

Over and over and over.

Stop claiming to be a rational person who wants to engage in legitimate discourse over such things. You are regularly proving that this isn't the case. You aren't seeking "the truth".

It would seem to me that getting reports from everyday people who are experiencing things would be more reliable than what is filtered through globalist-funded government shills, but if you want to continue to be a brainwashed sheep, go right ahead.

KUTradition wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:24 pm who knew critical thinking could be so hard?

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:32 pm

KUTradition wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:24 pm who knew critical thinking could be so hard?

It's not "thinking" at all. These grifters have made "thinking" something that only uppity leftist socialist snobs do as a means to identify ways they are better than these marginalized white, christian, blue collar, patriotic, everyday people.

This is just straight brainwashing. For god's sake, he completely ignores the disclaimer on the damn website that says it is not what he says it is as if it doesn't even exist and accuses me of only choosing my stance because I don't respect the feelings of these alleged everyday people. It's so sad how easy it was to remove the brain of so many people and replace it with a pass-through switchboard for disinformation.

KUTradition wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:35 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:32 pm

KUTradition wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:24 pm who knew critical thinking could be so hard?

It's not "thinking" at all. These grifters have made "thinking" something that only uppity leftist socialist snobs do as a means to identify ways they are better than these marginalized white, christian, blue collar, patriotic, everyday people.

This is just straight brainwashing. For god's sake, he completely ignores the disclaimer on the damn website that says it is not what he says it is as if it doesn't even exist and accuses me of only choosing my stance because I don't respect the feelings of these alleged everyday people. It's so sad how easy it was to remove the brain of so many people and replace it with a pass-through switchboard for disinformation.

frustrating and sad, isn’t it?

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:20 pm

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:52 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:25 am

VAERS is no different than wikipedia. Literally anyone can post anything there. It is not evidence of anything. It's like claiming that shit you read on twitter or facebook is "evidence" of something happening. We have had this same fucking conversation for two years and you still ignore the basic facts of it. We provide actual evidence that this is the case and you ignore it because it does not support your worldview.

https://vaers.hhs.gov/reportevent.html

"Anyone can submit a report to VAERS, including parents and patients."

Also from their own site:
https://vaers.hhs.gov/faq.html

Limitations of VAERS:

- It is generally not possible to find out from VAERS data if a vaccine caused the adverse event
- Reports submitted to VAERS often lack details and sometimes contains errors
- Serious adverse events are more likely to be reported than non-serious events
- Numbers of reports may increase in response to media attention and increased public awareness
- VAERS data cannot be used to determine rates of adverse events

Over and over and over.

Stop claiming to be a rational person who wants to engage in legitimate discourse over such things. You are regularly proving that this isn't the case. You aren't seeking "the truth".

It would seem to me that getting reports from everyday people who are experiencing things would be more reliable than what is filtered through globalist-funded government shills, but if you want to continue to be a brainwashed sheep, go right ahead.

Everyday people are frequently wrong. They are frequently wrong in direct eyewitness testimony. They are frequently wrong in reporting their symptoms to doctors. They are frequently wrong in relaying conversations they have heard or in describing items they have read. Everyday people are not a reliable source of information at all. Being a brainwashed sheep is just blindly accepting this source of data as accurate because you think it supports your argument despite the fact that it states on it's own website that it does NOT represent exactly what you say it represents.

I have not proposed a different source of data so your "what is filtered through globalist-funded government shills" is just your generic retelling of GOP boogeyman stories.

If the VAERS website required any sort of validation and investigation then I would take it more seriously. But since it is nothing more than a repository for unverified claims, it has as much value as a source as a suggestion box on the door of Bill Self's office full of everyday people's thoughts on who should get more minutes and what type of adjustments Self should make to the team.