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Re: 2024

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2023 5:58 am
by RainbowsandUnicorns
Shirley wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 9:08 pm I wonder why I haven't heard one word about this anywhere?

Could it be because a house that isn't on fire, isn't news?

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Lulz!
I might be able to find 5 out of 10,000 or 5,000 or 2,500 or how ever many polls that would say I have a better chance to marry a super model than Brad Pitt does.

P.S. The very first poll listed is kind of a farce. Right? I say/ask that based on this.

@YouGovAmerica
NEW: Economist/YouGov Poll

Regardless of who you prefer, who do you think would win the presidential election if Joe Biden were the Democratic candidate and Donald Trump were the Republican candidate?

Trump: 46%
Biden: 37%

(Among registered voters)

https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/d ... df#page=49

Re: 2024

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2023 7:38 am
by Shirley
I'll take who people prefer over who people think will win, but that's just me.

Re: 2024

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2023 8:37 pm
by Shirley

Re: 2024

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2023 9:41 am
by Shirley
Are Ronna McDaniel's days as RNC chairwoman numbered? I'm amazed she's lasted this long, considering what a lying, contemptible person she seems to be. Except now that I think of it, that makes her perfect for the job... (For reference, Ronna dropped her maiden name, "Romney", at Trump's request, because he doesn't like her uncle Mitt, after using it professionally for years. Talk about a portent of the/her future...) But, that being said, how could anyone, especially anyone with a modicum of personal integrity, do well when you've got a malignant narcissistic fascist calling the shots? I only copied and pasted part of the article, but the complaints about her appear widespread.

Donations to GOP drop as worries mount about the party’s finances. Donors have not cut as many large checks to the RNC in recent years, and the party’s small-dollar program has also suffered.

The Republican Party’s finances are increasingly worrisome to party members, advisers to former president Donald Trump, and other operatives involved in the 2024 election effort, according to 10 people familiar with the matter.

The Republican National Committee disclosed that it had $9.1 million in cash on hand as of Oct. 30, the lowest amount for the RNC in any Federal Election Commission report since February 2015. That compares with about $20 million at the same point in the 2016 election cycle and about $61 million four years ago, when Trump was in the White House.

The Democratic National Committee reported having $17.7 million as of Oct. 30, almost twice as much as the Republican Party, with one year before the election...

Some donors aren’t giving to the RNC because they think that will help Trump, which they don’t want to do, these people said, while others have said they prefer to wait until 2024 to give. Some have grown frustrated with the party’s leadership, people close to major donors said...

Still, the RNC’s dwindling cash position — combined with Republican losses in this month’s off-year elections, frustrations over the 2022 midterms and grousing over the chaotic presidential primary debates — has caused renewed questions about the committee’s effectiveness and McDaniel’s leadership.

“The RNC’s electoral record since 2017 speaks for itself,”
said Virginia RNC member Patti Lyman, who opposed McDaniel when she was elected to another term in January. “The damage from that chair election goes far beyond the drop in donations. Our base was demoralized.”

...Republican frustrations burst into the open this month after GOP losses in races for the Virginia legislature, the Kentucky governorship, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court, and on an Ohio ballot initiative on abortion rights.

In October, the RNC rejected a request for additional funding for the Virginia GOP this fall, said the state party chairman, Rich Anderson. RNC officials said they had budgeted based on a meeting earlier in the summer with Republican Gov. Glenn Youngkin’s team in which they didn’t ask for money.

...Other state party officials have grown frustrated when they’ve asked the RNC for money to pay legal bills and been turned down, according to people familiar with the discussions.

In TV and podcast interviews after the elections, McDaniel repeatedly defended the RNC’s refusal to pay, arguing that federal campaign finance laws limit the national committee’s involvement in state elections. In fact, there are no limits on RNC transfers to state parties.

...While Trump has been demanding that the RNC cancel future debates, Ramaswamy and other trailing candidates have complained about the qualifications, format, scheduling and moderators. Trump has grown agitated that the RNC is having them at all. The RNC took over organizing the debates in 2015 because of campaigns’ dissatisfaction with the media-run free-for-all forums in the 2012 primary.

“Who in the world would schedule a debate on the same night as the Country Music [Association] Awards unless you were actually trying not to reach Republican primary voters?” said former RNC executive director Scott Reed, referring to the Nov. 8 debate. “I don’t believe the party should be in the debate business. Let the conservative marketplace decide, and let the campaigns decide where they want to show up. It’s been a colossal failure.”

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Re: 2024

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 10:56 am
by Shirley
BREAKING: MCCARTHY will resign from Congress at the END OF THR MONTH and will NOT seek reelection.

This brings the margin down to two votes.

Re: 2024

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:11 am
by Overlander
This upcoming year is going to get REALLY, REALLY ugly.

Re: 2024

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:16 am
by jfish26
Overlander wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:11 am This upcoming year is going to get REALLY, REALLY ugly.
This is not to call Kevin a moderate, but it is now abundantly clear that MAGA has assumed control of the Republican party. It is also abundantly clear that MAGA is anti-democracy.

The 2024 stakes are, accordingly, abundantly clear.

Re: 2024

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:35 pm
by Shirley
jfish26 wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:16 am
Overlander wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:11 am This upcoming year is going to get REALLY, REALLY ugly.
This is not to call Kevin a moderate, but it is now abundantly clear that MAGA has assumed control of the Republican party. It is also abundantly clear that MAGA is anti-democracy.

The 2024 stakes are, accordingly, abundantly clear.
I agree. I didn't particularly care for McCarthy, but at least like Boehner, I think there were compromises that could be reached.

Having a lying*, hypocritical, pious Christo-Fascist like Johnson as Speaker doesn't portend well for the future of the nation, at all.

*Liz Cheney says she spoke to Johnson about him doing the legal work for House republicans in support of Trump's efforts to steal the election, and despite him admitting that he didn't have a leg to stand on, he was willing to do it, anyway.

Re: 2024

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:43 pm
by jfish26
Shirley wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:35 pm
jfish26 wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:16 am
Overlander wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:11 am This upcoming year is going to get REALLY, REALLY ugly.
This is not to call Kevin a moderate, but it is now abundantly clear that MAGA has assumed control of the Republican party. It is also abundantly clear that MAGA is anti-democracy.

The 2024 stakes are, accordingly, abundantly clear.
I agree. I didn't particularly care for McCarthy, but at least like Boehner, I think there were compromises that could be reached.

Having a lying*, hypocritical, pious Christo-Fascist like Johnson as Speaker doesn't portend well for the future of the nation, at all.

*Liz Cheney says she spoke to Johnson about him doing the legal work for House republicans in support of Trump's efforts to steal the election, and despite him admitting that he didn't have a leg to stand on, he was willing to do it, anyway.
I guess I'm an optimist; I am modestly hopeful that the evident, indisputable fact of MAGA's takeover of the right on culture wars grounds might actually help ensure that 2024 is another in a string of losses fueled by how deeply UNPOPULAR the MAGA agenda is with what swing voters there are.

Re: 2024

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:50 pm
by Shirley
jfish26 wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:43 pm
Shirley wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:35 pm
jfish26 wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:16 am

This is not to call Kevin a moderate, but it is now abundantly clear that MAGA has assumed control of the Republican party. It is also abundantly clear that MAGA is anti-democracy.

The 2024 stakes are, accordingly, abundantly clear.
I agree. I didn't particularly care for McCarthy, but at least like Boehner, I think there were compromises that could be reached.

Having a lying*, hypocritical, pious Christo-Fascist like Johnson as Speaker doesn't portend well for the future of the nation, at all.

*Liz Cheney says she spoke to Johnson about him doing the legal work for House republicans in support of Trump's efforts to steal the election, and despite him admitting that he didn't have a leg to stand on, he was willing to do it, anyway.
I guess I'm an optimist; I am modestly hopeful that the evident, indisputable fact of MAGA's takeover of the right on culture wars grounds might actually help ensure that 2024 is another in a string of losses fueled by how deeply UNPOPULAR the MAGA agenda is with what swing voters there are.
I'm bipolar on the subject...

Re: 2024

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:08 pm
by Overlander
My concern is two fold:

Biden wins (as he should) and half the country turns violent toward the Government.

Trump wins, and our own Government turns violent toward half of the people.

Someone tell me another possible scenario.

Re: 2024

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:12 pm
by TDub
Overlander wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:08 pm My concern is two fold:

Biden wins (as he should) and half the country turns violent toward the Government.

Trump wins, and our own Government turns violent toward half of the people.

Someone tell me another possible scenario.
either one wins and the people turn violent on each other.

it's not gonna be a great year or two

Re: 2024

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:18 pm
by MICHHAWK
where i live. we love and care for each other. i do not concern about neighbors hating on neighbors because of an election.

Re: 2024

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:20 pm
by jfish26
TDub wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:12 pm
Overlander wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:08 pm My concern is two fold:

Biden wins (as he should) and half the country turns violent toward the Government.

Trump wins, and our own Government turns violent toward half of the people.

Someone tell me another possible scenario.
either one wins and the people turn violent on each other.

it's not gonna be a great year or two
I'm somewhat more optimistic* than this. Although I think the slow burn of practical (if not legal) secession would be the most significant medium- and long-term headwind we've faced in our relatively brief history.

* You know, an effective Biden campaign ad might be to split-screen Trump's 2020 doom-and-gloom wishcasting over a Biden presidency, with what's actually happened.

Re: 2024

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:21 pm
by jfish26
MICHHAWK wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:18 pm where i live. we love and care for each other. i do not concern about neighbors hating on neighbors because of an election.
I've seen video of your state's capitol building. Sure seems loving, caring.

Re: 2024

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:24 pm
by jfish26
I do not know how to post the embedded image, but this is very very important.

https://x.com/radiofreetom/status/17320 ... q_-8Yt1KMA

Re: 2024

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:25 pm
by Overlander
MICHHAWK wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:18 pm where i live. we love and care for each other. i do not concern about neighbors hating on neighbors because of an election.
Um...you know you live in a state where a group of unhappy constituents tried to lynch your Governor...right?

Re: 2024

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:38 pm
by jfish26
Overlander wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:25 pm
MICHHAWK wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:18 pm where i live. we love and care for each other. i do not concern about neighbors hating on neighbors because of an election.
Um...you know you live in a state where a group of unhappy constituents tried to lynch your Governor...right?
Soros-seeded internet deviants and malcontents, the lot of 'em.

Re: 2024

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:41 pm
by Overlander
jfish26 wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:38 pm
Overlander wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:25 pm
MICHHAWK wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:18 pm where i live. we love and care for each other. i do not concern about neighbors hating on neighbors because of an election.
Um...you know you live in a state where a group of unhappy constituents tried to lynch your Governor...right?
Soros-seeded internet deviants and malcontents, the lot of 'em.
So well funded, that they even assumed the WalMart camo overalls and Tractor Supply pitchforks.

Re: 2024

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:44 pm
by jfish26
Overlander wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:41 pm
jfish26 wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:38 pm
Overlander wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:25 pm

Um...you know you live in a state where a group of unhappy constituents tried to lynch your Governor...right?
Soros-seeded internet deviants and malcontents, the lot of 'em.
So well funded, that they even assumed the WalMart camo overalls and Tractor Supply pitchforks.
As we all know, the Dems are famous for their skill at covert long-burn psyops (and for maintaining a watertight circle).