Kansas Crimson

Posted: **Wed Dec 11, 2019 3:49 pm**

Plus it's widely know to the Yahoo guys and by many that filming the press box close to around game-time is a huge no-no. And also, how convenient that the Pats outsourced this film crew so they could pass it off.

Pats don't get any benefit of the doubt. The NFL should bring the hammer down because of the repeated action and the lame ass excuses afterwards.

Posted: **Wed Dec 11, 2019 3:59 pm**

the pats are [proven] cheaters, period

Posted: **Wed Dec 11, 2019 4:04 pm**

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 2:22 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 1:28 pm
NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 1:04 pm

The Jets ended up being 4-12 the season they had Spy Gate. Record doesn't mean shit to them.
Division opponent. Mangini.

I know a large conspiracy here helps everyone sleep better at night, but it's just too many jumps with what is known to point to anything.
I guess I just look at it differently - I think you have to punish the conduct, even if nothing happened. It's just too similar to something that was a fucking PROBLEM before, and the Patriots should be kept pretty damned tightly in their lane about things having to do with filming opponents.

The lawyerly thing to do is to analyze it separately. It's not the organization's guys and had nothing to do with the football side of things. There's already an admission that the conduct would be a violation, so you pay the small fine and everyone moves on except for the outraged AFC team fans.

Posted: **Wed Dec 11, 2019 4:43 pm**

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 4:04 pm
jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 2:22 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 1:28 pm

Division opponent. Mangini.

I know a large conspiracy here helps everyone sleep better at night, but it's just too many jumps with what is known to point to anything.
I guess I just look at it differently - I think you have to punish the conduct, even if nothing happened. It's just too similar to something that was a fucking PROBLEM before, and the Patriots should be kept pretty damned tightly in their lane about things having to do with filming opponents.
The lawyerly thing to do is to analyze it separately. It's not the organization's guys and had nothing to do with the football side of things. There's already an admission that the conduct would be a violation, so you pay the small fine and everyone moves on except for the outraged AFC team fans.

Except we're not talking about putting anyone in jail. We're talking about an organization that has committed very fucking serious integrity-of-the-game breaches before, now doing something that is some (perhaps considerably lesser) degree of wrong as, but in the exact same nature of, very very bad prior acts.

You shouldn't analyze this separately from the prior bad acts. Specifically, if, say, the Vikings would get a $100,000 fine for doing this, then the Patriots should get something MUCH more severe.

Posted: **Wed Dec 11, 2019 4:45 pm**

Especially when it's the same owner, the same Coach/GM and same exact issue.

Posted: **Wed Dec 11, 2019 4:49 pm**

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 4:43 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 4:04 pm
jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 2:22 pm

I guess I just look at it differently - I think you have to punish the conduct, even if nothing happened. It's just too similar to something that was a fucking PROBLEM before, and the Patriots should be kept pretty damned tightly in their lane about things having to do with filming opponents.
The lawyerly thing to do is to analyze it separately. It's not the organization's guys and had nothing to do with the football side of things. There's already an admission that the conduct would be a violation, so you pay the small fine and everyone moves on except for the outraged AFC team fans.
Except we're not talking about putting anyone in jail. We're talking about an organization that has committed very fucking serious integrity-of-the-game breaches before, now doing something that is some (perhaps considerably lesser) degree of wrong as, but in the exact same nature of, very very bad prior acts.

You shouldn't analyze this separately from the prior bad acts. Specifically, if, say, the Vikings would get a $100,000 fine for doing this, then the Patriots should get something MUCH more severe.

The punishment portion, fine, but analyze what actually happened here: it's not much, if anything.

Posted: **Wed Dec 11, 2019 5:01 pm**

I'm not disputing that. It sounds like stuff that can probably be cobbled together from broadcast film anyway, substantively.

But I just don't think you can let that organization take even baby steps in the direction of the line.

Posted: **Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:25 am**

I think the fact they are an outlier for success in a highly competitive sport that has never seen this kind of dominance is highly suspect. How deep has been their obsession with tipping the scale? They have benefited mightily from slaps on the wrist. Like the Astros, I think the league better seriously investigate their culture and practices of deceit.

Posted: **Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:31 pm**

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 2:22 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 1:28 pm
NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 1:04 pm

The Jets ended up being 4-12 the season they had Spy Gate. Record doesn't mean shit to them.
Division opponent. Mangini.

I know a large conspiracy here helps everyone sleep better at night, but it's just too many jumps with what is known to point to anything.
I guess I just look at it differently - I think you have to punish the conduct, even if nothing happened. It's just too similar to something that was a fucking PROBLEM before, and the Patriots should be kept pretty damned tightly in their lane about things having to do with filming opponents.

So arrest a convicted and released burglar if he walks into a jewelry store during business hours and looks around. Got it. Makes sense.

Posted: **Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:09 pm**

How in the fuck did we mix NFL discipline and the Judiciary Branch?

Posted: **Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:37 pm**

NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:09 pm How in the fuck did we mix NFL discipline and the Judiciary Branch?

Because zerocoach is an idiot.

Posted: **Fri Dec 13, 2019 5:28 pm**

8 minutes of video on the Bengals bench.
That was a documentary all right.

Posted: **Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:11 pm**

Hey Whitt, article on ESPN on why Tannehill breakout is the real deal. I'm not sure I'm convinced, but I do like having the Miami throwaway doing what he's doing until at least tomorrow.

Posted: **Sat Dec 14, 2019 6:05 pm**

Tannehill seemed like the real deal at ATM. He benefits from a threatening running game. Perfect fit for him.

Posted: **Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:35 pm**

Sparko wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 6:05 pm Tannehill seemed like the real deal at ATM. He benefits from a threatening running game. Perfect fit for him.

This theory may indeed be tested tomorrow if Henry is less than 100%. Didnt practice all week.

Posted: **Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:37 am**

I like Tannehill because he is a tough SOB.

The QB keeper a few weeks back and then the chase down tackle last week. Plays hard.

Posted: **Sun Dec 15, 2019 11:30 am**

And let's face it, there is a dearth of good quarterbacks available on the secondary market. Tannehill was always three-times better than Dilfer's replacement Denver over-paid for. I miss Flacco.

Posted: **Sun Dec 15, 2019 11:43 am**

Tight shot of the Bengals sidelines with signals and sub patterns. FOH Patriots.

Posted: **Sun Dec 15, 2019 12:34 pm**

Mahomes is back

Posted: **Sun Dec 15, 2019 2:53 pm**

Nice solid win.

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