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Re: 2024
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:55 pm
by Shirley
Unremitting propaganda from Trump and his republican cult, Murdoch, Xi, and Vladimir et al, works?
Tom Nichols
@RadioFreeTom
I hope this is just a long lag in perception. If it's actually just mass delusion - a fever that doesn't seem to break - we're in deep and inevitable political trouble next year.
This is from the @FT: Americans are *wildly* wrong about the economy.
Re: 2024
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 3:00 pm
by jfish26
I did read that a very similar dynamic played out in 1983...and that the fever did break by Election Day.
Re: 2024
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 3:47 pm
by Shirley
jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 3:00 pm
I did read that a very similar dynamic played out in 1983...and that the fever did break by Election Day.
A year out no one knows what to expect, but I hate to have to count on it.
That was back when there were still only a few TV channels, that all attempted to stick to reality-based info for the most part, and before social media where the propagandists could so easily "catapult" their misinformation.
"See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda."
GWB May 24, 2005
Biden should take GWB's advice...
Re: 2024
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 10:26 pm
by Shirley
Overlander wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:08 pm
My concern is two fold:
Biden wins (as he should) and half the country turns violent toward the Government.
Trump wins, and our own Government turns violent toward half of the people.
Someone tell me another possible scenario.
A younger democratic candidate with a better chance to beat Trump than Biden.
(What do I win?)
Re: 2024
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 8:39 am
by jfish26
Needs the Twitter meme where 20% of the country shakes hands with the Biden campaign.
https://x.com/jimvandehei/status/173272 ... q_-8Yt1KMA
Trump’s loyalty-first cabinet. EXCLUSIVE details: 1. Melania wants @tuckercarlson for VP. 2. Stephen Miller 4 Attorney General. 3. Tucker pushing Steve Bannon as Chief of Staff. 4. JD Vance up for a big gig, on VP short list…
Re: 2024
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 9:18 am
by jhawks99
jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 8:39 am
Needs the Twitter meme where 20% of the country shakes hands with the Biden campaign.
https://x.com/jimvandehei/status/173272 ... q_-8Yt1KMA
Trump’s loyalty-first cabinet. EXCLUSIVE details: 1. Melania wants @tuckercarlson for VP. 2. Stephen Miller 4 Attorney General. 3. Tucker pushing Steve Bannon as Chief of Staff. 4. JD Vance up for a big gig, on VP short list…
Mike Flynn as Secretary of State?
Re: 2024
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:17 pm
by Overlander
jhawks99 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 9:18 am
jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 8:39 am
Needs the Twitter meme where 20% of the country shakes hands with the Biden campaign.
https://x.com/jimvandehei/status/173272 ... q_-8Yt1KMA
Trump’s loyalty-first cabinet. EXCLUSIVE details: 1. Melania wants @tuckercarlson for VP. 2. Stephen Miller 4 Attorney General. 3. Tucker pushing Steve Bannon as Chief of Staff. 4. JD Vance up for a big gig, on VP short list…
Mike Flynn as Secretary of State?
That is a LOT of convicted criminals on ONE Presidential Cabinet. But, if you elect a Convict as President, what else would you expect?
Re: 2024
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:25 pm
by jfish26
Overlander wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:17 pm
jhawks99 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 9:18 am
Mike Flynn as Secretary of State?
That is a LOT of convicted criminals on ONE Presidential Cabinet. But, if you elect a Convict as President, what else would you expect?
Of course, on Day One, he’s telling you he’ll wipe away all federal convictions (and use the levers of government to
practically terminate all state-level prosecutions).
Re: 2024
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:21 pm
by Overlander
So, they won't be convicted criminals anymore.
Pretty convenient
Re: 2024
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:01 pm
by Shirley
Overlander wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:21 pm
So, they won't be convicted criminals anymore.
Pretty convenient
^^^
It will go nicely with the best Supreme Court "conservative" republican billionaires, could buy.
Re: 2024
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 8:41 pm
by jfish26
And this is what the end of the rule of law looks like. It isn't Trump (or anyone else) declaring himself dictator. It's just a bunch of things, big and small, that when taken together render one unaccountable for one's actions.
Re: 2024
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 9:05 pm
by DCHawk1
jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 8:39 am
Needs the Twitter meme where 20% of the country shakes hands with the Biden campaign.
https://x.com/jimvandehei/status/173272 ... q_-8Yt1KMA
Trump’s loyalty-first cabinet. EXCLUSIVE details: 1. Melania wants @tuckercarlson for VP. 2. Stephen Miller 4 Attorney General. 3. Tucker pushing Steve Bannon as Chief of Staff. 4. JD Vance up for a big gig, on VP short list…
Ironically, if you've read Vance's book, you know that he fucking HATED Trump in 2016.
It's grifters all the way down...
Re: 2024
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 6:37 am
by jfish26
DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 9:05 pm
jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 8:39 am
Needs the Twitter meme where 20% of the country shakes hands with the Biden campaign.
https://x.com/jimvandehei/status/173272 ... q_-8Yt1KMA
Trump’s loyalty-first cabinet. EXCLUSIVE details: 1. Melania wants @tuckercarlson for VP. 2. Stephen Miller 4 Attorney General. 3. Tucker pushing Steve Bannon as Chief of Staff. 4. JD Vance up for a big gig, on VP short list…
Ironically, if you've read Vance's book, you know that he fucking HATED Trump in 2016.
It's grifters all the way down...
I haven’t read Vance’s book. But it’s fitting that, at bottom, he’s a poor man’s (but not a Poor Man’s, if you catch my drift) Ted Cruz.
Re: 2024
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 1:45 pm
by defixione
Re: 2024
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 1:49 pm
by KUTradition
weird knowing exactly where that pic was taken
Re: 2024
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 1:57 pm
by jfish26
KUTradition wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 1:49 pm
weird knowing exactly where that pic was taken
Ha - nice spot!
Re: 2024
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:25 pm
by Shirley
Well, this should send his cult into a tizzy:
(And it could be horrible news for demos.)
Donald Trump is barred from Colorado’s 2024 primary ballot, the state Supreme Court rules
In a historic decision Tuesday, the Colorado Supreme Court barred Donald Trump from running in the state’s presidential primary after determining that he had engaged in insurrection on Jan. 6, 2021.
The ruling marked the first time a court kept a presidential candidate off the ballot under an 1868 provision of the Constitution that prevents insurrectionists from holding office. The ruling comes as courts consider similar cases in other states.
The decision is certain to be appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court, but it will be up to the justices to decide whether to take the case. Scholars have said only the nation’s high court can settle the issue of whether the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol constituted an insurrection and whether Trump is banned from running.
“A majority of the court holds that President Trump is disqualified from holding the office of President under Section Three of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution,” the decision reads. “Because he is disqualified, it would be a wrongful act under the Election Code for the Colorado Secretary of State to list him as a candidate on the presidential primary ballot.”
[...]
Re: 2024
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:30 pm
by Sparko
Yay. He needs to go and live with his binder of secrets. In Russia.
Re: 2024
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 8:36 pm
by jfish26
I don’t think there’s anything remotely complicated about what the founders meant by Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment.
I also don’t think there’s any better than a, say, three-in-nine chance this holds up. Somewhat ironically, I would actually be significantly more optimistic about this case if Trump wasn’t already facing at least four material, die-in-prison-type prosecutions.
Re: 2024
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:04 pm
by Shirley
jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 8:36 pm
I don’t think there’s anything remotely complicated about what the founders meant by Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment.
I also don’t think there’s any better than a, say, three-in-nine chance this holds up. Somewhat ironically, I would actually be significantly more optimistic about this case if Trump wasn’t already facing at least four material, die-in-prison-type prosecutions.
Good thing our SCOTUS is rife with originalists, and textualists...
