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Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 3:18 pm
by zsn
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:10 am
zsn wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 12:13 am I don’t know if you guys are joking about lawyers getting vaccinated (rough few days at work) but my employment-lawyer friend who nearly died (for a while we thought he was gone), spent nearly 3 months in the ICU, likely contracted the virus in court. So there’s that. Of course that was in early March when we didn’t know that much.
My joke was about lawyers being considered essential workers across the country--which, I get because of criminal dockets and such--but I've seen too often firm heads using that as a basis to require mandatory office attendance for lawyers that are not doing life and death work, like myself.

Having done 2 jury trials during COVID and a dozen or so virtual hearings, I can absolutely say that the physical presence of most lawyers is not needed. Anyone getting deathly ill from COVID contracted at a routine hearing for an employment law case is pretty shameful from the Court's perspective.
I don’t disagree. I think the Courts have gone essentially all virtual now. However, as I mentioned when he got it was very early days and there were maybe a dozen or so confirmed cases in the county and people really didn’t have any idea of what was happening.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 3:53 pm
by Deleted User 89
MICHHAWK wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:27 pm We all know that mostly everyone is doing their part.

We are doing our portion. The sickness don’t care.
you’re as bad as lobster, posting ignorant opinions and not actually looking at the facts

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... ii/617321/

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/orange ... down-order

https://www.deseret.com/utah/2020/11/9/ ... ake-county

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 5:59 pm
by twocoach
MICHHAWK wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:27 pm We all know that mostly everyone is doing their part.

We are doing our portion. The sickness don’t care.
No, we absolutely do know know that at all. In fact, we k ow the exact opposite. Many people are doing as little as they are required to do (wearing a mask because a store requires it) and then ignoring any recommendations as to how to behave in private by hosting gatherings or attending private functions with no masks.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 6:16 pm
by jfish26
Also, 50.01% compliance, or even 80% compliance, just doesn’t move the needle from a suppression standpoint.

The fact is our numbers are right in line with the reasonable worst-case projections.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 6:46 pm
by Deleted User 289
MICHHAWK wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:27 pm We all know that mostly everyone is doing their part.

We are doing our portion. The sickness don’t care.
"Mostly everyone is doing their part"? Really?
You can't possibly be that ignorant. Can you?

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 6:47 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
jfish26 wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 6:16 pm Also, 50.01% compliance, or even 80% compliance, just doesn’t move the needle from a suppression standpoint.

The fact is our numbers are right in line with the reasonable worst-case projections.
You could have also just posted this again. Although, of course, a lot of those places have better healthcare than the US.

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Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 7:22 pm
by jfish26
And, in several cases, cultural acceptance of/desire for masking.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 7:38 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
A wide belief/trust in science.

A lack of wildly distorted views of personal freedom.

We could keep going.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 7:58 pm
by zsn
I think the Thailand number is somewhat suspicious but the broader message is still very powerful. I agree with the conclusions

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 11:52 pm
by sdoyel

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:21 am
by jhawks99
Luv me sum Katie Porter

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:45 am
by twocoach
jhawks99 wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:21 am Luv me sum Katie Porter
She is doing what I wish more Congress members would do which is to hold others accountable. She is doing a great job. I appreciate her transparency and dedication to her job.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:09 am
by MICHHAWK
I do not know this person. She sounds great. Can she get the schools back open?

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:11 am
by NewtonHawk11
What also makes her a person to like is that she is a single mother and she faces a lot of the same things that single parents face today. Granted she is a lawyer and is a politician, so it's a bit different, but she's the only member of congress who is a single parent, but yet she's also one of the most prepared members of congress and has won so many people over with the use of a simple whiteboard.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:24 am
by jfish26
MICHHAWK wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:09 am I do not know this person. She sounds great. Can she get the schools back open?
Katie Porter, a member of the House of Representatives for California's 45th district (which is in Orange County, California), has very little to do with whether Michigan's schools are open.

To the extent your concerns are properly addressed at anyone in the federal government, I'd suggest starting at the top.

We'd have a pretty normal life at the moment if your guy hadn't deliberately downplayed the virus, politicized mask-wearing and refused to use the enormous powers of his office to institute a comprehensive, national testing and tracing function.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:28 am
by MICHHAWK
While she is at it, can she open up an investigation into the teachers union.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:29 am
by jfish26
She cannot. If you'd like to be able to hold Katie Porter accountable for something, I suggest moving to Irvine, California. It is a soulless, awful place.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:32 am
by MICHHAWK
Nuts! We need an investigation into the teachers union.

Can you file a class action lawsuit?

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:36 am
by Deleted User 89
jfish26 wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:29 am She cannot. If you'd like to be able to hold Katie Porter accountable for something, I suggest moving to Irvine, California. It is a soulless, awful place.
mich would fit right in

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:37 am
by CrimsonNBlue
MICH's posts are just turning into Trump tweets at this point.