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Re: Trump/Republicans 2020: Suppressing Votes & Weaponizing the Government.

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:33 pm
by Deleted User 62
Feral wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2020 1:02 pm
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:15 pm "Not a drill"

JFC
It comes as no surprise that that's what you noticed in that post.
It's more about continuing the argument......

Re: Trump/Republicans 2020: Suppressing Votes & Weaponizing the Government.

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:51 pm
by TDub
Content creation.

Re: Trump/Republicans 2020: Suppressing Votes & Weaponizing the Government.

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:03 pm
by Deleted User 295
jeepinjayhawk wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:33 pm
Feral wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2020 1:02 pm
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:15 pm "Not a drill"

JFC
It comes as no surprise that that's what you noticed in that post.
It's more about continuing the argument......
Nope.

Just made me roll my eyes. Dems using fear/smoke signals to motivate their voters. Just seem to remember a lot of criticism about the GOP doing similar in 2016. Just makes me chuckle.

Re: Trump/Republicans 2020: Suppressing Votes & Weaponizing the Government.

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:16 pm
by Deleted User 89
TDub wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:51 pmContent creation.
i’d take ousie’s content over illy’s 7 days a week, and twice on sundays

Re: Trump/Republicans 2020: Suppressing Votes & Weaponizing the Government.

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 10:19 pm
by Deleted User 62
TraditionKU wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:16 pm
TDub wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:51 pmContent creation.
i’d take ousie’s content over illy’s 7 days a week, and twice on sundays
^^^^^^^^

Also, be ready for 4 pages of responses on this.

Re: Trump/Republicans 2020: Suppressing Votes & Weaponizing the Government.

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 7:42 am
by Shirley
Let's recap:

Not guilty:

-Clinton
-Comey
-McCabe

Guilty:

-Manafort
-Gates
-Flynn
-Stone
-Cohen
-Papadopoulos
-Kilimnik
-The GRU

Re: Trump/Republicans 2020: Suppressing Votes & Weaponizing the Government.

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:52 am
by Deleted User 89
and how long have repubs had the chance to formally investigate the bidens?

Re: Trump/Republicans 2020: Suppressing Votes & Weaponizing the Government.

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 1:27 pm
by twocoach
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:03 pm
jeepinjayhawk wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:33 pm
Feral wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2020 1:02 pm

It comes as no surprise that that's what you noticed in that post.
It's more about continuing the argument......
Nope.

Just made me roll my eyes. Dems using fear/smoke signals to motivate their voters. Just seem to remember a lot of criticism about the GOP doing similar in 2016. Just makes me chuckle.
Wrong. This isn't based on fear. Weaponizing fear is about making people scared of what might happen.

There's a difference between using a fear of what might happen and a disgust of what is actually happening.

Re: Trump/Republicans 2020: Suppressing Votes & Weaponizing the Government.

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 1:33 pm
by Deleted User 295
twocoach wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2020 1:27 pm
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:03 pm
jeepinjayhawk wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:33 pm

It's more about continuing the argument......
Nope.

Just made me roll my eyes. Dems using fear/smoke signals to motivate their voters. Just seem to remember a lot of criticism about the GOP doing similar in 2016. Just makes me chuckle.
Wrong. This isn't based on fear. Weaponizing fear is about making people scared of what might happen.

There's a difference between using a fear of what might happen and a disgust of what is actually happening.
Illegal border crossing was actually happening. It was used to play on fear to motivate voters.... (often by making it seem way worse than it truly was)

Re: Trump/Republicans 2020: Suppressing Votes & Weaponizing the Government.

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 1:37 pm
by twocoach
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2020 1:33 pm
twocoach wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2020 1:27 pm
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:03 pm

Nope.

Just made me roll my eyes. Dems using fear/smoke signals to motivate their voters. Just seem to remember a lot of criticism about the GOP doing similar in 2016. Just makes me chuckle.
Wrong. This isn't based on fear. Weaponizing fear is about making people scared of what might happen.

There's a difference between using a fear of what might happen and a disgust of what is actually happening.
Illegal border crossing was actually happening. It was used to play on fear to motivate voters.... (often by making it seem way worse than it truly was)
Trump didnt just claim "be careful of brown people, they may have crossed the border illegally". He said that Mexico was sending a bunch of rapists and murderers over who might rape and kill you and your family.

See the difference? Might vs. Is.

Re: Trump/Republicans 2020: Suppressing Votes & Weaponizing the Government.

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 1:41 pm
by Deleted User 295
Both are using fear to motivate voters.

Whether you/I agree or disagree with the given topic/method chosen is irrelevant.

"This is not a drill" 😂😂😂

Re: Trump/Republicans 2020: Suppressing Votes & Weaponizing the Government.

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 1:44 pm
by Deleted User 295
You don't even read what you respond to.

I just made a post that literally said "often by making it seem worse than it truly was"....and then your response is like "HEY!!! He was saying things are much worse than they truly are!!!".....and I'm like uh yeah I just said that. 😂😂😂

Re: Trump/Republicans 2020: Suppressing Votes & Weaponizing the Government.

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 2:17 pm
by twocoach
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2020 1:44 pm You don't even read what you respond to.

I just made a post that literally said "often by making it seem worse than it truly was"....and then your response is like "HEY!!! He was saying things are much worse than they truly are!!!".....and I'm like uh yeah I just said that. 😂😂😂
Calling them rapists and murderers isnt just "saying border crossings are much worse than they are". It is promoting a fear of something else entirely based off of nothing other than a handful of cases and an underlying level of passive racism.

Re: Trump/Republicans 2020: Suppressing Votes & Weaponizing the Government.

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 2:39 pm
by TDub
Speaking of fear. Glad to see your neighbors gun hasnt leapt off the table and started firing itself at you yet.

Re: Trump/Republicans 2020: Suppressing Votes & Weaponizing the Government.

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:18 pm
by Deleted User 295
twocoach wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2020 2:17 pm
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2020 1:44 pm You don't even read what you respond to.

I just made a post that literally said "often by making it seem worse than it truly was"....and then your response is like "HEY!!! He was saying things are much worse than they truly are!!!".....and I'm like uh yeah I just said that. 😂😂😂
Calling them rapists and murderers isnt just "saying border crossings are much worse than they are". It is promoting a fear of something else entirely based off of nothing other than a handful of cases and an underlying level of passive racism.
You've said that already. We get it.

You're latching onto this immigration thing. It's not the point or the topic. The point is that both sides motivate their voting bases using fear.

Re: Trump/Republicans 2020: Suppressing Votes & Weaponizing the Government.

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:29 pm
by twocoach
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:18 pm
twocoach wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2020 2:17 pm
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2020 1:44 pm You don't even read what you respond to.

I just made a post that literally said "often by making it seem worse than it truly was"....and then your response is like "HEY!!! He was saying things are much worse than they truly are!!!".....and I'm like uh yeah I just said that. 😂😂😂
Calling them rapists and murderers isnt just "saying border crossings are much worse than they are". It is promoting a fear of something else entirely based off of nothing other than a handful of cases and an underlying level of passive racism.
You've said that already. We get it.

You're latching onto this immigration thing. It's not the point or the topic. The point is that both sides motivate their voting bases using fear.
Apparently you dont.

Re: Trump/Republicans 2020: Suppressing Votes & Weaponizing the Government.

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:33 pm
by Deleted User 295
OMG dude. You're the best.

Re: Trump/Republicans 2020: Suppressing Votes & Weaponizing the Government.

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:48 pm
by chiknbut
TDub wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2020 2:39 pm Speaking of fear. Glad to see your neighbors gun hasnt leapt off the table and started firing itself at you yet.
Of course this could never happen. A gun is an inanimate object, incapable of motion.

But if a person who shouldn't have a gun picks it up and decides to use it, then there's the problem.

Of course if the gun wasn't there in the first place - you know, because a background check determined that this person was not mentally capable of owning such a dangerous object - then the question is nonsense to begin with. Seriously, if this neighbor has a gun just sitting around on a table, it's dangerous to a lot of people. He's likely incapable of passing a background check or doesn't have the mental capacity to understand how dangerous this gun - lying out on the table - could be.

Re: Trump/Republicans 2020: Suppressing Votes & Weaponizing the Government.

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:59 pm
by DCHawk1
twocoach wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2020 2:17 pm
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2020 1:44 pm You don't even read what you respond to.

I just made a post that literally said "often by making it seem worse than it truly was"....and then your response is like "HEY!!! He was saying things are much worse than they truly are!!!".....and I'm like uh yeah I just said that. 😂😂😂
Calling them rapists and murderers isnt just "saying border crossings are much worse than they are". It is promoting a fear of something else entirely based off of nothing other than a handful of cases and an underlying level of passive racism.
Well...that plus the memory of the marielitos.

Re: Trump/Republicans 2020: Suppressing Votes & Weaponizing the Government.

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 4:07 pm
by TDub
chiknbut wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:48 pm
TDub wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2020 2:39 pm Speaking of fear. Glad to see your neighbors gun hasnt leapt off the table and started firing itself at you yet.
Of course this could never happen. A gun is an inanimate object, incapable of motion.

But if a person who shouldn't have a gun picks it up and decides to use it, then there's the problem.

Of course if the gun wasn't there in the first place - you know, because a background check determined that this person was not mentally capable of owning such a dangerous object - then the question is nonsense to begin with. Seriously, if this neighbor has a gun just sitting around on a table, it's dangerous to a lot of people. He's likely incapable of passing a background check or doesn't have the mental capacity to understand how dangerous this gun - lying out on the table - could be.
Right. Just pointing out that fear plays both ways.


Now change that 3rd wording to say "of course, if that (insert country here) immigrant wasnt there in the first place, because of yknow, background checks" and while it may still be a silly statement to you or to me or to whoever, you can see how it plays on fears. Exactly like the gun argument. Which was my only point.