Kansas Crimson

TDub wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:36 am So when they try to lock the country back down after covid cases spike in a couple weeks, hows that gonna go? Brakes are off the car, buckle up.

The sad thing in all this, that I haven't seen mentioned is that these protests, as we know are largely motivated by racial inequality.

But they're likely going to set off a wave of Covid19 cases, a viral infection that has disproportionately negative impacts on people of color.

At an author celebration a couple of years ago, a featured author was a black woman who was at the Birmingham Church in 1963 and whose friends died while she was getting a drink of water or something. She talked about the importance of violence that shocked the nation in making change, not just the marches. That's not my perception, but that of an African American who lived through that time. So, I looked at the timeline and the violence that happened around it. The link is to an abstract that explains about the death of JFK and Civil Rights legislation.


May 3, 1963 - Bull Connor turned hoses and police dogs on protestors

June 12, 1963 - Medger Evers killed

September 15, 1963 - Birmingham Church bombing - 4 girls killed

Nov. 22, 1963 - JFK assassinated

June 21, 1964 - 3 Civil Rights workers killed in Neshoba County

Civil Rights Act passed - July 2, 1964

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10. ... 15.1099835

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:36 am

TDub wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:36 am So when they try to lock the country back down after covid cases spike in a couple weeks, hows that gonna go? Brakes are off the car, buckle up.

The sad thing in all this, that I haven't seen mentioned is that these protests, as we know are largely motivated by racial inequality.

But they're likely going to set off a wave of Covid19 cases, a viral infection that has disproportionately negative impacts on people of color.

Another Democratic creation!

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:51 am

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:39 am

Feral wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:54 am Short version:

There's much that he says that is worth hearing, but this stuck out:

"Yeah, but what do you get from NOT looting Target?"

That's...uh...nuts. A moral code is a moral code whether "the leaders" are moral or not. If you allow your moral behavior to be defined by the behavior of the ruling class, then you will never, ever have anything approaching civil society -- because you'll never, ever have a non-corrupt ruling class.

Also, he misunderstands the American interpretation of the social contract.

I think he makes a good point in that it's important to understand WHY that's happening. Empathy is a big part of the path forward.

But, I agree with you in that what Noah is missing, is that he thinks NOT looting Target won't get anything done. I think that what made the acts of people like Gandhi, MLK, Nelson Mandella, Jackie Robinson, etc. so inspirational and so great and so lasting was that they stood up to injustice without letting their anger turn destructive. They didn't stoop to the level of the people that they were fighting against.

i would argue that many of the looters are just there to loot...protest messaging be damned

could be wrong

Feral wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:44 am

ousdahl wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:18 am ^^^^
dang!

Wisdom? Empathy? Vision? Inspiration? A sense of something bigger than oneself? No personal attacks or name calling? Proper grammar?!

I miss presidents who act presidential.

^^^

Thanks for sharing it twocoach.

I will be digging into it in greater details later today. I need to read more and figure out what is going on locally that I. An put my frustrated energy into.

Just hearing more details about the 22 year old protestor who was shot and killed by a bar owner here in Omaha a few nights ago. First glance is nauseating. I will research more over lunch.

The irony of this statement as Donald hunkers down in his bunker...

I wonder what Trump's bunker stash looks like?

- plenty of filet-o-fish and hamberders
- crayons in case he gets bored
- signed copy of The Art Of The Deal
- Dapper Dan pomade for the wig (but he insists on calling it Dapper Don)
- closed circuit direct phone line to Sean Hannity's office
- crayons in case he gets bored

DC and his Tea Party buddies have undone a lot of the civil rights advances made in the 60's. How's affirmative action, voting rights, and other social advances doing lately.

almost commented on voting rights/suppression earlier

ousdahl wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:58 am I wonder what Trump's bunker stash looks like?
- Dapper Dan pomade for the wig (but he insists on calling it Dapper Don)

Well, he doesn't want Fop, dammit. He's a Dapper Dan man!

lol

two weeks from anywhere

ousdahl wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:58 am I wonder what Trump's bunker stash looks like?

- plenty of filet-o-fish and hamberders
- crayons in case he gets bored
- signed copy of The Art Of The Deal
- Dapper Dan pomade for the wig (but he insists on calling it Dapper Don)
- closed circuit direct phone line to Sean Hannity's office
- crayons in case he gets bored

-putting green
-flip phone
-playboy magazines and Kleenex
-framed, signed 5x7 of Putin
-orange makeup

that's all likely accurate, but you forgot to mention he also photoshopped the hands on the Putin pic

Feral wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:31 am

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:21 am

TDub wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:17 am

Youre a fucking moron. Wasnt asking you, you fell off the ship sometime yesterday evening.

They will not be able to pull off another lockdown without military intervention. People have been pushed past their limits economically, emotionally, and psychologically. If you want to see rioting in the streets, go ahead and tell people to go home for round two of this idiocy.

snowflake

Actually, if you believe, as Psych does, in encouraging herd immunity for the frontline and backend workers by limiting testing and access to health care, so that he and his students and their parents can social distance now, while the frontline retail and cleaning and food service and health care kinds of folks are developing herd immunity through exposure to the virus--it makes sense. Then, by fall, the parents of his students will be willing to pay high tuition and feel safe because all those low income and brown skinned folks will have been exposed, infected and recovered, or died, and they can feel safe to send their kids back to college.

And here’s Trump making wild accusations:

seahawk wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:47 pm

Feral wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:31 am

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:21 am

They will not be able to pull off another lockdown without military intervention. People have been pushed past their limits economically, emotionally, and psychologically. If you want to see rioting in the streets, go ahead and tell people to go home for round two of this idiocy.

snowflake

Actually, if you believe, as Psych does, in encouraging herd immunity for the frontline and backend workers by limiting testing and access to health care, so that he and his students and their parents can social distance now, while the frontline retail and cleaning and food service and health care kinds of folks are developing herd immunity through exposure to the virus--it makes sense. Then, by fall, the parents of his students will be willing to pay high tuition and feel safe because all those low income and brown skinned folks will have been exposed, infected and recovered, or died, and they can feel safe to send their kids back to college.

If I understand, you're saying that Psych is playing 4-dimensional chess, and we're playing checkers.

I thought I heard somewhere that Tom Cotton was smart?

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 3:39 pm Exactly.

It's just a bunch of spoiled white kids with nothing better to do.

They'd fight for brunch if they had any friends to eat it with.

Sundress season!

Feral wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:27 pm I thought I heard somewhere that Tom Cotton was smart?

It's also, by far, the worst song on an otherwise solid album