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Re: Another Stimulus Check?

Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 3:28 pm
by Deleted User 89
TraditionKU wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 1:17 pm what do you call someone who won’t acknowledge right-wing violence and terrorism, while at the same time continually attempting to magnify the violence undertaken by people of color?

Re: Another Stimulus Check?

Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 3:34 pm
by Walrus
A lot of the BLM/Anifa folks are white. I don't like violence no matter where it comes from.


Re: Another Stimulus Check?

Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 3:41 pm
by Deleted User 89
yet, until now, you’ve attempted to amplify only the violence committed by black people

why?

Re: Another Stimulus Check?

Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 3:42 pm
by Deleted User 89
and nobody watches your youtubes, so might as well stop posting them as some sort of “evidence”

Re: Another Stimulus Check?

Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 3:57 pm
by PhDhawk
I won't click on any youtube link that's longer than about 45 seconds...at the most.

I sure as hell won't click on any that require me to ok some type of giant warning.

Re: Another Stimulus Check?

Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 2:30 pm
by Walrus
Good. Biden is at least stepping in the right direction.

"Biden says Americans must accept a job or lose unemployment benefits after disappointing jobs report"

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/bi ... obs-report

Re: Another Stimulus Check?

Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 2:58 pm
by ousdahl
Just hypothetically here -

What if the unemployment benefits are rescinded, and there’s still lots of positions left vacant?

Who are job creators gonna blame then?

Re: Another Stimulus Check?

Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 3:06 pm
by Walrus
Employers are going to have to pay more to get even entry level employees to work. That will eventually lead to even higher prices on top of the inflation.

Re: Another Stimulus Check?

Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 3:11 pm
by ousdahl
Is it worth suggesting a wage should reflect not simply skill level, but also productivity, and as some proportion of profits?

Cuz, yeah, sure, flipping burgers in itself isn’t a supper difficult skill to learn.

But flipping burgers under sweat shop conditions while business booms and the shareholders rake it in?

Re: Another Stimulus Check?

Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 3:14 pm
by Walrus
A wage should reflect productivity. We agree on that at least. On the flip side, you have college administrators and professors that take in huge salaries that are not producing anything of value.

Re: Another Stimulus Check?

Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 3:16 pm
by JKLivin
Walrus wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 2:30 pm Good. Biden is at least stepping in the right direction.

"Biden says Americans must accept a job or lose unemployment benefits after disappointing jobs report"

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/bi ... obs-report
Good for him - or whoever is feeding him his lines.

Re: Another Stimulus Check?

Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 3:17 pm
by JKLivin
ousdahl wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 3:11 pm Is it worth suggesting a wage should reflect not simply skill level, but also productivity, and as some proportion of profits?

Cuz, yeah, sure, flipping burgers in itself isn’t a supper difficult skill to learn.

But flipping burgers under sweat shop conditions while business booms and the shareholders rake it in?
Profit sharing implies ownership in the company. Seems like that should be a benefit earned over time and through performance, not one handed out automatically.

Re: Another Stimulus Check?

Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 3:18 pm
by Mjl
ousdahl wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 3:11 pm Is it worth suggesting a wage should reflect not simply skill level, but also productivity, and as some proportion of profits?

Cuz, yeah, sure, flipping burgers in itself isn’t a supper difficult skill to learn.

But flipping burgers under sweat shop conditions while business booms and the shareholders rake it in?
Because if you don't let the free market dictate that you lose your skilled people that other countries will pay more.

I mean, that's part of the reason that we're such a technological powerhouse - we are that country that other countries best and brightest go to so that they can earn more.

Re: Another Stimulus Check?

Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 3:28 pm
by ousdahl
Huh?

The comment was more about “low skill” positions, and you made it more about highly skilled. (And I put low skill in quotes because it seems that term was coined by folks who never tried to do those jobs themselves)

And speaking of tech powerhouse - i thought all these job creators were gonna replace workers with robots? Why not do that, instead of close up shop and whine that you can’t get anyone to work for your shit wages?

Re: Another Stimulus Check?

Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 3:29 pm
by ousdahl
JKLivin wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 3:17 pm
ousdahl wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 3:11 pm Is it worth suggesting a wage should reflect not simply skill level, but also productivity, and as some proportion of profits?

Cuz, yeah, sure, flipping burgers in itself isn’t a supper difficult skill to learn.

But flipping burgers under sweat shop conditions while business booms and the shareholders rake it in?
Profit sharing implies ownership in the company. Seems like that should be a benefit earned over time and through performance, not one handed out automatically.
Care to reply to lobster’s comment about college professors raking it in?

Re: Another Stimulus Check?

Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 3:34 pm
by Mjl
ousdahl wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 3:28 pm Huh?

The comment was more about “low skill” positions, and you made it more about highly skilled. (And I put low skill in quotes because it seems that term was coined by folks who never tried to do those jobs themselves)

And speaking of tech powerhouse - i thought all these job creators were gonna replace workers with robots? Why not do that, instead of close up shop and whine that you can’t get anyone to work for your shit wages?
Because dictating pay levels for any level (within reason - I am not saying there shouldn't be a minimum wage) results in flatter wages, which results in losing the higher skill workers.

It's what brought my wife's family to this country.

And you're the one saying robots will replace everyone, not those store and company owners.

Re: Another Stimulus Check?

Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 3:35 pm
by japhy
ousdahl wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 2:58 pm Just hypothetically here -

What if the unemployment benefits are rescinded, and there’s still lots of positions left vacant?

Who are job creators gonna blame then?
Job creators don't give a fuck. The only ones crying are the ones who need workers at welfare wages and w/o benefits to make their company profitable.

But the rubes should all keep their focus on that $300/week the welfare queens are getting, the poor are ripping you hard working bastards off! How dare they not go back to work and risk getting seriously ill without health insurance!......in the meantime the job creators just got their $2.6M PPP "loan" forgiven......and that money is tax free!

The dividend class is about to have a great year, courtesy of the trump swamp.


Re: Another Stimulus Check?

Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 5:09 pm
by Deleted User 863
japhy wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 3:35 pm
ousdahl wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 2:58 pm Just hypothetically here -

What if the unemployment benefits are rescinded, and there’s still lots of positions left vacant?

Who are job creators gonna blame then?
The only ones crying are the ones who need workers at welfare wages and w/o benefits to make their company profitable.
That has been my experience as well.

Most places i am seeing are not having issues getting people to return to work.

The ones in my city vocally complaining can probably look right down the street to a competitors business who pays better wages and is fully staffed.

Re: Another Stimulus Check?

Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 8:39 pm
by MICHHAWK
ousdahl wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 2:58 pm What if the unemployment benefits are rescinded, and there’s still lots of positions left vacant?
At least we will have shed a bunch of dead weight from the rolls.

Re: Another Stimulus Check?

Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 9:25 pm
by Overlander
MICHHAWK wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 8:39 pm
ousdahl wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 2:58 pm What if the unemployment benefits are rescinded, and there’s still lots of positions left vacant?
At least we will have shed a bunch of dead weight from the rolls.
What about folks that want to work, but they have pre school age children and day care providers are not back open yet?

They just need to WANT it, right?