I'm not trying to withhold credit where it belongs, it was only confusion about phd saying only the bigs consistently shoot high FG%. That's going to be true in every season. Even Steph is a streaky shooter.NDballer13 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 2:24 pm It's one thing to say a guy should be shooting a certain percentage, it's another to give him the credit he deserves for doing it because if it were that common we wouldn't be talking about it.
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Self has obviously come a long way since the fools gold comment, and it is truly absurd now. Yesterday's second half was pretty much perfect basketball for now. Exploit the down low mismatch in the halfcourt, heave outlet passes and run after misses, late shot clock, you now have a guy that can get points on his own off the bounce.PhDhawk wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 2:34 pmYes, you can't be one dimensional.CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 2:30 pmAgree it's important to have good bigs, but the points per possession thing is going to be more true on an individual possession basis. Over the course of a game and a season, you really need to spread the court, make 3's, and get out in transition for easy buckets. Not even with Udoka or Aldrich are you now able to just throw the ball on the block every possession and have them come out with 35-40 points.PhDhawk wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 2:25 pm
I think that just shows the importance of having good bigs.
They're the most efficient way to put points on the board. We're rewarding perimeter players with a 3 point shot, but even then being able to throw it to a guy on the block is the best way to score the most points per possession.
And transition is probably THE most efficient way to score. But again...you can't always do that. I think that's why Self called 3 point shooting fools gold, because you can't rely on it every night. I don't think post play is any different, in that regard.
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I was more thinking of Wilson and Braun though, who both generate a lot their shots going to the rim, in transition, off rebounds...they aren't solely perimeter players.CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 2:36 pmI'm not trying to withhold credit where it belongs, it was only confusion about phd saying only the bigs consistently shoot high FG%. That's going to be true in every season. Even Steph is a streaky shooter.NDballer13 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 2:24 pm It's one thing to say a guy should be shooting a certain percentage, it's another to give him the credit he deserves for doing it because if it were that common we wouldn't be talking about it.
But man, there have been a lot of 5 for 14 nights from both...even on nights when they are playing well. And especially in Braun's case, he showed he could shoot a very high % pretty consistently before Christmas. I'd like to see some more of that.
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With CB, his 2P% was just so absurd in non-con, and I think a lot had to do with playing a weak schedule. No one could challenge him at the rim on drives or in transition. I think right now is closer to who he is: 50ish% from 2, 40ish% from 3. His 2P% at one point was like 72%.PhDhawk wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 2:41 pmI was more thinking of Wilson and Braun though, who both generate a lot their shots going to the rim, in transition, off rebounds...they aren't solely perimeter players.CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 2:36 pmI'm not trying to withhold credit where it belongs, it was only confusion about phd saying only the bigs consistently shoot high FG%. That's going to be true in every season. Even Steph is a streaky shooter.NDballer13 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 2:24 pm It's one thing to say a guy should be shooting a certain percentage, it's another to give him the credit he deserves for doing it because if it were that common we wouldn't be talking about it.
But man, there have been a lot of 5 for 14 nights from both...even on nights when they are playing well. And especially in Braun's case, he showed he could shoot a very high % pretty consistently before Christmas. I'd like to see some more of that.
Never really felt Jalen was a great jumpshooter--he is certainly prone to bad shooting nights statistically--I swear he puts some shots up just to try and get the offensive rebound. His role seems to be to just try and make things happen.
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DMac has shot 51% from Conference start on.
Braun is below 45% from the same period.
Ochai is even worse ( though his TS% is higher than both DMac and Braun ).
*double checked stats, sports reference
Braun is below 45% from the same period.
Ochai is even worse ( though his TS% is higher than both DMac and Braun ).
*double checked stats, sports reference
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I think Dave has clearly been a better player this year than last. The media haven't really talked about it.
*Except for Newell. He's mentioned it a few times.
*Except for Newell. He's mentioned it a few times.
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he is exactly the kind of player Fran thought he’d be
*eyeroll*
*eyeroll*
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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v 2 seed Villanova
David McCormack 1.23 25 PTS, 9 REB, 10-12 FG ( might be season best among all KU players )
Ochai Agbaji .824 21 PTS, 2 REB, 6-7 3FG
Jalen Wilson .607 11 PTS, 12 REB, 4-11 FG
Christian Braun .441 10 PTS, 5 AST, 4-8 FG
Dejuan Harris .324 9 PTS, 4 AST, 3-7 FG
David McCormack 1.23 25 PTS, 9 REB, 10-12 FG ( might be season best among all KU players )
Ochai Agbaji .824 21 PTS, 2 REB, 6-7 3FG
Jalen Wilson .607 11 PTS, 12 REB, 4-11 FG
Christian Braun .441 10 PTS, 5 AST, 4-8 FG
Dejuan Harris .324 9 PTS, 4 AST, 3-7 FG
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Overall
Ochai Agbaji .618
Christian Braun .576
David McCormack .495
Jalen Wilson .485
Remy Martin .347
Dejuan Harris .276
Mitch Lightfoot .270
Zach Clemence .163 *
Jalen ColemanLands .148
Joseph Yesufu .100 *
KJ Adams .092*
Ochai Agbaji .618
Christian Braun .576
David McCormack .495
Jalen Wilson .485
Remy Martin .347
Dejuan Harris .276
Mitch Lightfoot .270
Zach Clemence .163 *
Jalen ColemanLands .148
Joseph Yesufu .100 *
KJ Adams .092*
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v 8 seed North Carolina
David McCormack .586 15 PTS, 10 REB, 7-15 FG
Jalen Wilson .546 15 PTS, 4 REB, 2 AST
Remy Martin .530 14 PTS, 3 REB, 1 AST
Christian Braun .523 12 PTS, 12 REB, 3 AST ( played all 40 minutes! )
Ochai Agbaji .352 12 PTS, 3 REB, 4-9 FG
David McCormack .586 15 PTS, 10 REB, 7-15 FG
Jalen Wilson .546 15 PTS, 4 REB, 2 AST
Remy Martin .530 14 PTS, 3 REB, 1 AST
Christian Braun .523 12 PTS, 12 REB, 3 AST ( played all 40 minutes! )
Ochai Agbaji .352 12 PTS, 3 REB, 4-9 FG
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Season End 2022
Ochai Agbaji .609
Christian Braun .574
David McCormack .496
Jalen Wilson .485
Remy Martin .352
Dejuan Harris .272
Mitch Lightfoot .268
Zach Clemence .163 *
Jalen ColemanLands .146
Joseph Yesufu .100 *
KJ Adams .090*
Bobby Pettiford .094*
Chris Teahan .038*
Michael Jankovich .035*
Ochai Agbaji .609
Christian Braun .574
David McCormack .496
Jalen Wilson .485
Remy Martin .352
Dejuan Harris .272
Mitch Lightfoot .268
Zach Clemence .163 *
Jalen ColemanLands .146
Joseph Yesufu .100 *
KJ Adams .090*
Bobby Pettiford .094*
Chris Teahan .038*
Michael Jankovich .035*
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For a little Gutterism:
Player A:
16.3 PPG, 7.4 RPG, 3 APG, 1.7 SPG, 1.1 BPG, 51.3% FG, 37.8% 3FG.
Player B:
18.8 PPG, 5.1 RPG, 1.6 APG, .6 SPG, .6 BPG, 47.5% FG, 40.7% 3FG.
Player A:
16.3 PPG, 7.4 RPG, 3 APG, 1.7 SPG, 1.1 BPG, 51.3% FG, 37.8% 3FG.
Player B:
18.8 PPG, 5.1 RPG, 1.6 APG, .6 SPG, .6 BPG, 47.5% FG, 40.7% 3FG.