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Re: Transfer portal 2022
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:29 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:28 pm
jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:25 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:13 pm
It makes sense that KT would get a harsher punishment, but man it sure seems obvious that KU would love to make KT the sacrificial lamb and move forward.
I just don't see a scenario where the NCAA settles for something less than some Bill skin.
It's sort of out of the NCAAs hands. If the review panel is truly independent and impartial.
Re: Transfer portal 2022
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:32 pm
by jfish26
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:28 pm
jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:25 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:13 pm
It makes sense that KT would get a harsher punishment, but man it sure seems obvious that KU would love to make KT the sacrificial lamb and move forward.
I just don't see a scenario where the NCAA settles for something less than some Bill skin.
It's sort of out of the NCAAs hands. If the review panel is truly independent and impartial.
Well, there have been conflicting accounts of whether a negotiated settlement is or is not even a possibility.
If it's not...then it's exceedingly unlikely that the IARP would slam KT and call it a day.
And if it is...then it's exceedingly unlikely that the NCAA would agree to slam KT and call it a day.
The nuance is entirely around if/when/how KU should pivot away from "no."
Re: Transfer portal 2022
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:40 pm
by ousdahl
wasn't/isn't that part of the NCAA's case at some point too?
"say, you know, just hypothetically, if we called this guy a booster?"
hypothetically? whatever, sure.
GOTCHA!
Re: Transfer portal 2022
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:54 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
We get so far into the weeds on this stuff that sometimes it's still so unbelievable to me that this whole thing is in regards to Billy Preston, Silvio De Sousa, and Zion Williamson.
One went to Duke. We turned Preston in after being cleared. We played red light/green light with De Sousa before NCAA told us anything.
Gottfried buried his head in the sand and played Dennis Smith for a whole season.
Re: Transfer portal 2022
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:58 pm
by twocoach
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:54 pm
We get so far into the weeds on this stuff that sometimes it's still so unbelievable to me that this whole thing is in regards to Billy Preston, Silvio De Sousa, and Zion Williamson.
One went to Duke. We turned Preston in after being cleared. We played red light/green light with De Sousa before NCAA told us anything.
Gottfried buried his head in the sand and played Dennis Smith for a whole season.
Same with Penny and Wiseman at Memphis.
Re: Transfer portal 2022
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:03 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
Yes. And that's all to say, if you want KT out of the game for awhile for bad behavior, fine. If you want to put Self in timeout for not running a tight enough ship, I get it.
But, that doesn't take away what the 2018 team did on the court--don't punish them. And our 2023 players had nothing to do with it.
Re: Transfer portal 2022
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:04 pm
by jfish26
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:54 pm
We get so far into the weeds on this stuff that sometimes it's still so unbelievable to me that this whole thing is in regards to Billy Preston, Silvio De Sousa, and Zion Williamson.
One went to Duke. We turned Preston in after being cleared. We played red light/green light with De Sousa before NCAA told us anything.
Gottfried buried his head in the sand and played Dennis Smith for a whole season.
AND, the whole thing is premised on "evidence" introduced in a criminal proceeding (to which neither the NCAA nor KU was a party).
It's absolutely absurd.
No one out there calling for Bill's head on a pike would appreciate this bullshit being pointed in their personal direction. For example, I don't think anyone would like their lender repossessing their house on the basis that, in a criminal trial to which they were not a party, a drug dealer claimed that there was a meth lab in the basement of the house.
Re: Transfer portal 2022
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:06 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:04 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:54 pm
We get so far into the weeds on this stuff that sometimes it's still so unbelievable to me that this whole thing is in regards to Billy Preston, Silvio De Sousa, and Zion Williamson.
One went to Duke. We turned Preston in after being cleared. We played red light/green light with De Sousa before NCAA told us anything.
Gottfried buried his head in the sand and played Dennis Smith for a whole season.
AND, the whole thing is premised on "evidence" introduced in a criminal proceeding (to which neither the NCAA nor KU was a party).
It's absolutely absurd.
No one out there calling for Bill's head on a pike would appreciate this bullshit being pointed in their personal direction. For example, I don't think anyone would like their lender repossessing their house on the basis that, in a criminal trial to which they were not a party, a drug dealer claimed that there was a meth lab in the basement of the house.
"Evidence" where the proper foundation was never laid and the defense did not care to use it when, if true, it would have been crucial to their case. Nearly everyone misses that when talking about the texts.
Re: Transfer portal 2022
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:11 pm
by jfish26
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:06 pm
jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:04 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:54 pm
We get so far into the weeds on this stuff that sometimes it's still so unbelievable to me that this whole thing is in regards to Billy Preston, Silvio De Sousa, and Zion Williamson.
One went to Duke. We turned Preston in after being cleared. We played red light/green light with De Sousa before NCAA told us anything.
Gottfried buried his head in the sand and played Dennis Smith for a whole season.
AND, the whole thing is premised on "evidence" introduced in a criminal proceeding (to which neither the NCAA nor KU was a party).
It's absolutely absurd.
No one out there calling for Bill's head on a pike would appreciate this bullshit being pointed in their personal direction. For example, I don't think anyone would like their lender repossessing their house on the basis that, in a criminal trial to which they were not a party, a drug dealer claimed that there was a meth lab in the basement of the house.
"Evidence" where the proper foundation was never laid and the defense did not care to use it when, if true, it would have been crucial to their case. Nearly everyone misses that when talking about the texts.
Yes. The whole thing is enormously problematic.
Re: Transfer portal 2022
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:24 pm
by Sparko
Except for Duke.
Re: Transfer portal 2022
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 2:35 pm
by InfiniteJ
Jalen Bridges staying in the Big XII (Baylor).
Re: Transfer portal 2022
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:29 pm
by NewtonHawk11
Inter-conference transfers are always so weird to me.
Re: Transfer portal 2022
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:40 pm
by punkrockhawk
NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:29 pm
Inter-conference transfers are always so weird to me.
I know what you mean! It was bizarre playing against Bryce Thompson and Tristan Enaruna this past season. Just happy that we came out on top in those games.
Re: Transfer portal 2022
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:45 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
I am willing to be weirded out and get Tyrese Hunter.
Re: Transfer portal 2022
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:56 pm
by KUTradition
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:45 pm
I am willing to be weirded out and get Tyrese Hunter.
piece from 247 seems to indicate at least part of the reason he’s leaving isu is due to relatively limited NIL opportunities in Ames
Re: Transfer portal 2022
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:47 pm
by pdub
ISU fans apparently going to form a collective to feed into possible NIL deals.
Gross.
Re: Transfer portal 2022
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:21 pm
by jfish26
pdub wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:47 pm
ISU fans apparently going to form a collective to feed into possible NIL deals.
Gross.
You should think about checking out, then.
Re: Transfer portal 2022
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:21 pm
by pdub
I am.
Re: Transfer portal 2022
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:40 pm
by kubowler99
pdub wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:21 pmI am.
You have to believe the primary reason Tshiebwe is coming back to UK next year is NiL. And him staying another year is great for college basketball. So it cuts both ways, IMO.
Re: Transfer portal 2022
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:50 pm
by Deleted User 863
I don't know. Is Tshiebwe NBA material? If not, this probably isn't the best time to be heading overseas to the Euro League or high paying (previously?) Russian teams. NIL no doubt plays a role, but until guys like Banchero are returning for NIL reasons, I am not going to jump to any conclusions until a player actually says that's the main reason why they're coming back.