Kansas Crimson

pdub wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:00 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 10:58 am

pdub wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 10:55 am I'm sorry but I can't watch the way Hunter plays and not think he isn't as driven as he could possibly be.
It's not cool/collected and passion either like a Tim Duncan.
It's, if I ( I in bold ) do something great, celebrate me. He does a ton of that. Even if KU is loosing.

I know i'm putting myself out in the eye test zone and I hate the eye test zone but pdub's eye test says you can't NOT place some of this blame on a guy who ( TO ME ) isn't tough or a good leader and is largely here so he could make more money.

Bigger problems are Kevin being hurt and depth ( bench does nothing ) - but you can't just ignore the above ( or I can't and don't think others should ).

I think there's more than a touch of confirmation bias here - I think you are predisposed to see the negative in Hunter, who you do not like, and who represents things you do not like.

I don't disagree fully.
But it's pretty obvious that he gives up on plays every single game ( to be fair, I didn't watch last nights game so I can't speak to that specifically but holy shit, that's a focus thing if you shoot 6-15 from the free throw line ) - if you don't see that, you aren't watching.

DeletedUser wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:25 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 10:41 am I think elmarko is doing a good job of learning the system and fitting in.

I don't think he's done a good job at learning the system, he still looks the most lost of the bunch....but it's hard. I get it. Most freshman struggle to understand everything.

I DO think he's done a GREAT job at keeping a positive attitude regardless of his role.

I like his attitude from the outside....but i felt the same way about yesufu Pettiford Rice Udeh and Zuby last year, and well, they still left KU.

InfiniteJ wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:12 am He also wasted a scholarship on a dude who is redshirting and probably will leave the program (again)

pdub wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:00 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 10:58 am

pdub wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 10:55 am I'm sorry but I can't watch the way Hunter plays and not think he isn't as driven as he could possibly be.
It's not cool/collected and passion either like a Tim Duncan.
It's, if I ( I in bold ) do something great, celebrate me. He does a ton of that. Even if KU is loosing.

I know i'm putting myself out in the eye test zone and I hate the eye test zone but pdub's eye test says you can't NOT place some of this blame on a guy who ( TO ME ) isn't tough or a good leader and is largely here so he could make more money.

Bigger problems are Kevin being hurt and depth ( bench does nothing ) - but you can't just ignore the above ( or I can't and don't think others should ).

I think there's more than a touch of confirmation bias here - I think you are predisposed to see the negative in Hunter, who you do not like, and who represents things you do not like.

I don't disagree fully.
But it's pretty obvious that he gives up on plays every single game ( to be fair, I didn't watch last nights game so I can't speak to that specifically but holy shit, that's a focus thing if you shoot 6-15 from the free throw line ) - if you don't see that, you aren't watching.

pdub wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:21 am Not even that hot of takes from Infinite J ( though I expect Furphy to return ).

I dunno if getting Timberlake is really Self's fault though - a lot of teams wanted him - he was scorching nets and you'd think that 3 point shooting would translate well enough to our level we needed him at.

TDub wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:44 am imagine swinging your arm like a big elephant cock between your legs after hitting a 3 when it didn't win the game, you were 6-15 from the free throw line and you're 6-32 from 3 in conference.

randylahey wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:52 am This teams problem is a bunch of dumbasses gave a preaseason #1 ranking to a very average kansas team

Every player on the roster except mccullar has at least 1 glaring weakness for their position.

And it's a team of newcomers, bunch of freshman and transfers that haven't really played together much

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:51 am

pdub wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:00 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 10:58 am

I think there's more than a touch of confirmation bias here - I think you are predisposed to see the negative in Hunter, who you do not like, and who represents things you do not like.

I don't disagree fully.
But it's pretty obvious that he gives up on plays every single game ( to be fair, I didn't watch last nights game so I can't speak to that specifically but holy shit, that's a focus thing if you shoot 6-15 from the free throw line ) - if you don't see that, you aren't watching.

I think - and I'm glad to have the discussion with you, which is why I'm responding to you and not similar posts like yours - when we have words like "gives up" and "focus" in the conversation, we also need to recognize the physical and mental burden we are placing on the few good guys we have. And we know minutes take a toll on bigs in a more acute way than small guys.

We've had thin teams before, but...even in 2008-09, Cole didn't play even 30 mpg. Even in 2011-12, Thomas Robinson only played 31.8 mpg, and Withey played 24.8 mpg. Even in 2018-19, Dedric only played 32.6 mpg.

Hunter is averaging 32.3 mpg, and that average is probably a bit misleading (in that it does not yet reflect the next 10ish games, all but one of which we can expect to be battles).

I 100% - 1000000%, 100000000000000% - agree that Hunter fails the eye test too much. I just personally lean against (recognizing my own biases!) ascribing those failures to heart in the first position of blame.

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:52 am

TDub wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:44 am imagine swinging your arm like a big elephant cock between your legs after hitting a 3 when it didn't win the game, you were 6-15 from the free throw line and you're 6-32 from 3 in conference.

I'd hope someone would sit me down and tell me I'm being a dipshit.

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:52 am

TDub wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:44 am imagine swinging your arm like a big elephant cock between your legs after hitting a 3 when it didn't win the game, you were 6-15 from the free throw line and you're 6-32 from 3 in conference.

I'd hope someone would sit me down and tell me I'm being a dipshit.

InfiniteJ wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:02 pm

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:52 am

TDub wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:44 am imagine swinging your arm like a big elephant cock between your legs after hitting a 3 when it didn't win the game, you were 6-15 from the free throw line and you're 6-32 from 3 in conference.

I'd hope someone would sit me down and tell me I'm being a dipshit.

It doesn't get brought up much anymore, but his quote about him being glad that KU was preseason #1 because it shows they're better than everyone else, has to be told/showed to every team/player that KU goes against this year.

DeletedUser wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:30 pm Harris hasn't regressed "badly".

That's as biased as PDubs analysis of HD.

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:35 pm somebody posted earlier that we have been bounced in the first weekend 3 of the last 4 years. while the roster has had great turnover. there has been no turnover at the top. maybe that is where we have regressed.